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Return_of_Chippy@lemmy.world to Lemmy Shitpost@lemmy.world · 12 hours ago

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Return_of_Chippy@lemmy.world to Lemmy Shitpost@lemmy.world · 12 hours ago
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    If you respect China

    China as a country, a people and a culture deserve respect. The current power structure doesn’t.

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        They literally can’t complain…

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          Or what?

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            The social credit system

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              Lmao. The one that doesn’t exist?

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                it doesnt take much searching to find out it does…

                if you want to lie, at least be competent about it

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                  Wow, so confident. Hit me with a source, big guy!

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                    You’re shockingly confrontational.

                    https://academic.oup.com/edited-volume/63015/chapter-abstract/565954230?login=false

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        That is a fascinating graph indeed. Ever wondered why official rape rates can be much higher in very progressive countries than in ultra-convservative countries where women have few rights, even if rape is illegal there? Hint: It is not because there are necessarily more rapes.

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          Lmao

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            No arguments, I see.

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              I’m waiting for an argument against my data.

              Did you think your comment was worthy of rebuttal, lmfao?

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                So no argument, except for “your argument does not count because I say so”. Ok. .ml style.

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                  Im waiting for an argument against my data

                  Did you want to talk about rape statistics instead? You’re free to make your own thread. Your argument doesn’t count because it’s not an argument, it’s a tangentially related statement at best.

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                    OK, just in case you don’t understand their argument I’m just going to state it plainly.

                    They’re saying that because of different social factors in extremely conservative countries women do not feel comfortable reporting rapes because of societal backlash. They are comparing this situation to your self-reported data on the perceptions of democracy in different countries.

                    Basically, they’re implying you can’t trust the data you showed because there’s outside factors affecting the truthfulness of the self-reported perceptions.

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        If you would please consult the graph

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        It certainly highlights a level of self-denial.

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          Over a billion people all just so in denial.

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            That’s what propaganda does. China isn’t a free democracy.

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              I’m sure you know better than the actual Chinese people polled. Thanks for setting the record straight.

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                and when North Koreans say the Kim gang are great, we should believe them.

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                  I believe them more than the obvious bullshit propaganda coming from the country that literally genocided them, lmao.

                  You believe shit like every man in the country has to get the same haircut?

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                    coming from the country that literally genocided them, lmao.

                    Why are you assuming that the original commentator is American?

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                    It would be a lot easier to combat other country’s propaganda if citizens were able to travel to or at least communicate with other countries. Why won’t the government allow them to do that? There isn’t any non-tyrannical reason to censor all media in and out of the country.

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                    wp:Let’s trim our hair in accordance with the socialist lifestyle

                    The program claimed that long hair could adversely affect hygiene and human intelligence, as growing it “consumed nutrition” which would ultimately starve the brain of energy and reduce human intelligence[1].

                    and,

                    wp:2026 North Korean parliamentary election

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                Some times it takes an outsider to see the problems, and I’m not alone in seeing massive democratic problems in China. You don’t know who participated in that poll (and neither do I) was it random people on the street or pro party people? With the amount of surveillance in China, I probably would think twice before speaking against the party.

                The communist party has the sole power in China, while other parties technically are legal they haven’t got any power higher than city/regional level.

                And then there’s the corruption, they have massive problems with that.

                And before you go “hurr durr other countries bad” yes other countries do have problems and some may be worse than China, but that doesn’t legitimise Chinas government.

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                  They lifted 800 million people out of poverty in 40 years and 90% of Chinese adults own their own home. They haven’t dropped a bomb in 50 years. They produce more solar panels in a year than the rest of the world has combined so far.

                  Yeah. There’s a lot to like.

                  Also, more data from a “better” source.

                  https://rajawali.hks.harvard.edu/resources/understanding-ccp-resilience-surveying-chinese-public-opinion-through-time/

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                I see what you’re getting at but you only need to glance at the US to know that a lot of citizens of a country do NOT know WTF they’re talking about when it comes to their leadership.

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                  You think there might be a bit of an education gap between the two countries looool?

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                    China also do have a large population of lesser educated people. Not everyone in China are doctors or engineers.

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        Your point is that China is exceptionally nationalistic? Based on a subjective study. Nice hard facts there. What’s really awesome is that the source is partnered with Taiwan Foundation for Democracy. An organization explicitly aiming to distance Taiwan from China and strengthen it as a independent democratic government.

        https://allianceofdemocracies.org/supporters

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          You like this one better?

          https://rajawali.hks.harvard.edu/resources/understanding-ccp-resilience-surveying-chinese-public-opinion-through-time/

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            Info from 2003-2016 saying the population of China is extremely nationalistic… Again… what’s your point?

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              Keep thinking buddy, you’ll figure it out eventually.

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                What a good way to convey your point.

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                  Honestly it speaks for itself and your shitty little comments don’t do much to refute that, definitely not enough for me to need to address them, lol.

                  Now, are we admitting you were full of shit with that comment, or are we just going to continue to derail?

                  Show me your proof for your other comment.

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                    Idk what you’re talking about. But giving a graph showing China is nationalistic doesn’t really have anything to do with anything. Unless you’re trying to say that because you have a graph that shows they are hyper nationalistic, they should imperialists in regards to Taiwan.

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