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Instant walk out, never again
You can get principled on that but then also walk out if they have a phone.
You’re not using one are you?
Do they know where those precious metals come from and how they’re mined? No.Most of these people are also blissfully unaware of any AI problems except them possibly taking over the world.
They don’t even need to understand it, It’s just some cool thingy computers do these days.
Then back to their administration or the facebook.
Average shopkeepers are busy running their shop.
They’re not having ethical debates on Lemmy.
At the risk of being down voted to oblivion, I don’t mind if they use AI to touch up actual photos of their food, like improve background , lighting etc.
Note the photo has to be original though.
However, if they use AI to generate the whole photo, that’s a problem.
went antiquing recently. store was large and had dedicated vendor booths. half of them had shitty AI generated “vintage” art.
I was thoroughly disgusted.
though, there was a large booth filled with books going back to the early 1800s and woodworking tools in reasonable condition. most books were poetry, but there were some first edition engineering code books there as well.
it was my happy space.
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Restaurants using AI for food menu is a sign of bad quality.
The best pizza I ever had was from a hole-in-the-wall place in Montreal with a layer of grease in the windows, thick cobwebs covered in dead flies, and an air-conditioner black with mold.
If anyone cares, or remembers, it was Rock And Roll Pizza on Bleury, where the Spectrum used to be. In front of the NYKS.
It was a Persian guy running the place. One day I convinced a Persian co-worker to eat there. I guess he gave shit to the owner because the next day the place was a lot cleaner.
Basically they made some kind of shawarma pizza that was out of this world.
Oh and the business next door sold sex dolls, there was a fully inflated transexual doll in that window.
I miss that Montreal. I don’t like the crappy generic condo abomination that’s there now.
So anyways, if greasy windows and dead spiders didn’t turn me off, what does it say that seeing some generic gross AI art turns me off?
(I just remembered another MTL pizza place with greasy windows and dead flies that was so amazing a guy drove from the South Shore just to eat there.)
It’s still a local business so why abandon that because no one there has the creative ability to make “cool” looking ads?
AI for the masses means they can “draw” stuff, even without any artistic ability.
You might mention your dislike of their using AI - and offer your artistic services instead. Shunning business because of their lack of creative ability is kind of silly… made even worse if their product is good and what you want.
or, and hear me out, do market research to identify if what you’re planning to do is a good idea.
when you’re running a business, no matter the size, making decisions based on gut feeling is a terrible idea.
In the instance of a restaurant, “market research” consists of eating there. CGI (AI’s public interface; menus, advertisements, menu displays (as have been in fast food chains for decades) - none of that matters if the food is inedible.
That’s kind of where I was coming from. I give a shit if they’ve got god fucking a unicorn, AI style, in the front window if their flautas and tamales are GOOD. Or their Bün is good. Or their chili cheese dog with pickles and jalapenos is delicious. Or they are the only place to get a Hang Ten with a pocket. Or ALL the Vans. etc.
Mention it to them. Tell them your opinion. Do it correctly, expound on the excellence of their product - some of the best you’ve ever had - and opine to them you feel AI involvement in their establishment lessens the establishment while the food remains excellent or the product quality remains.
Diplomacy. At the local level. If you’re on about homie depot or ded lobsters or wallymart - fuggitabout. If you’re going to shop there - deal with it. Think of that slop as pablum for the droolers. Well, maybe not all droolers, but you get the idea.
Nah, it’s a testament to no matter what you do, some people would rather be miserable and “make a statement” than to just forget the damn ai art and go inside the damn restaurant.
Why doesn’t the owner just forget the AI AND TAKE A FUCKING PICTURE OF THE FOOD THEY’RE MAKING ???
I’ve been to plenty of restaurants THAT TAKE PHOTOS OF THEIR FOOD and it’s just as capable of being bad than if it was ai. Stay mad though, I’m sure it’ll change because of your anger.
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Baffling response. The point is none of this AI cancer is necessary.
While I agree with the whole ai is ruining shit argument, I’m just saying I’m not going to punish a LOCAL MOM AND POP SHOP for using AI. Instead of boycotting them, why not talk to them about why AI is bad and offer to make their damn menu for them. Instead you pack up your chairs and say Nope! And then go complain about it behind a screen. DO SOMETHING rather than SAYING SOMETHING.
Ahh “the customer is always wrong” motto…
…also, your image of others as “people who prefer to be miserable” rather than people who prefer hand made art, or art that hasn’t been stolen and used for profit by billionaires, or art that wasn’t created by polluting the planet… Is it’s self, a miserable illusion of others.
So you, yourself are choosing the miserable viewpoint.
Personally I’m glad people have a sense of justice, and pay attention to the news and care about issues of morality and climate survival.
I like people fighting billionaires, and fighting for the environment. I think they’re great, and that your view point - is the flawed and weaker one.
Miserable meaning you just HAD to post something about it. I’m all for fighting billionaires, BUT TYPING IN ALL CAPS AT AN ONLINE STRANGER ISN’T FIGHTING BILLIONAIRES.
That wasn’t the order of events, you spoke up on behalf of AI and models trained by billionaire companies destroying the planet THEN you (gasp) got an all caps response (the pain!)… Telling people to just accept it.
Now you’re pretending like that was the start of it, or the part that has harmful or world scale implications.
It’s not. The support for AI companies does.
P.S I didn’t all caps you, I’m not the same person, so stop saying “YOU just had to ALL CAPS ME”.
Their artistic skills have nothing to do with their culinary skills.
Then don’t put up ai art. Just put up a text menu.
Or marketing skills, or getting a feel for the room.
Can I pay with an AI picture of a credit card?
Willingness to put time and effort into understanding the experience the customer wants.
It’s like when I go to vendor halls at conventions and half the vendors are repackaged aliexpress/temu items
I’m fine with the massive Chinese booths like that at our flea market. We get some useful stuff for cheap. But in general it turns me off. Our local Goodwills now sell bottom-of-the-barrel Chinese imports for the same prices as the next better sort of thing.
It’s like when I go to
vendor halls at conventions and half the vendorsany store that’s not a mega-department store all the items are repackaged aliexpress/temu itemsftfy
TBH, the US has been middle-manning economically depressed labor for cheap goods for decades. It just turns out that China is way better at it than we are.
Alibaba/express just made it a marketplace where companies could do it with zero friction.
Because in addition to already running your own business, you should also be a ad exec and a artist.
Listen fuck the ai industry and what its doing, but can we fuck off with hating on the people who use it for what its worth right now?
Edit, to be clear, fuck off and suck a dick to everyone who replied to me.
No, we cant. I would rather see just plain times new roman text than that slop. Especially if its food related
If you’re too lazy to photograph the food you produce day in and day out, I don’t wanna find out where else you’ll cut corners. It doesn’t take much effort to pop a plate on a cutting board or white poster board and snap a shot with your phone.
Because in addition to already running your own business, you should also be a ad exec and a artist.
That’s what running your own business is. You do as much as possible by yourself so you don’t have to share the profits. What would these people have done before AI? They would have had to figure it out. And their solution—whatever it was—would have been more tasteful than AI slop.
The slop poster isn’t really replacing an ‘ad exec’, so it’s about ‘artist’.
A common scenario people have posted is when they GenAI up some food pictures. Given they could have snapped pictures of the food they cook with a cell phone pretty much instantly, this particularly doesn’t inspire confidence in their food.
Related is if they GenAI up their menu, then it can get confusing/weird as the content sometimes doesn’t quite match what the restauraunt actually does. Which makes me realize how lazy they are about accuracy.
The other case I’ve seen is them using image gen to put out a ‘mascot’ character. I suppose this is less critically on point, but compared to someone who skipped the ‘mascot’ gimmick altogether or someone who at least charmingly made an attempt, it’s a bit of a turn-off.
If they were using it for what it’s good at, we wouldn’t be upset.
This is french fries and coleslaw and crab cake sando with lettuce.
A business can log into the free version of Canva, type in what they want and come out with 90 different templates for their marketing and flyers.
By people not supporting businesses who use AI instead of creating jobs for humans? No I’m not bothered by that at all.
It’s worse when their menu pictures have the glitch where it makes things look like triptaphobia? I forget how it’s spelled and I’m not going to look it up for obvious reasons…
It’s like they all use one model that can’t figure out french fries, hash browns, or lettuce.
This place has a $35 crab cake sandwich on the menu and can’t manage to take a picture of the fucking thing.
Trypophobia? Went to a restaurant that had ai menu pictures that looked like everything was made of bugs. They looked absolutely disgusting. At that point it wasn’t even about not liking ai, i simply lost my apetite looking at it.
That’s the one. Same reaction. They’re lucky I didn’t puke lol
That’s what you get when you use ai to upscale ai images.
Oh yeah like it generates the images all roughly textured? I think it’s like a reaction to generated images usually looking too smooth, but they just ended up deep frying them in uncanny.
it’s a vicious circle.
Recently saw an AI photobooth. No one was using it, they were taking their own pictures instead.
Why the fuck would I pay you to stick a prompt in when I could do it myself if I really wanted an AI generated picture? You may have cut some of your costs, but now your final product has no value to it.
That’s the thing that really gets me about these folks.
You slop up something for yourself and you are happy with it, ok.
But then you expect me to engage/pay for your zero-effort AI output that I could have just gotten myself direct from the same place you did? Why?
What’s an AI photobooth? I’m just imagining a booth where you have your photo taken and it prints a totally unrelated AI-generated photo. Like, you go for a passport photo and get a picture of Marie Curie and the Hulk windsurfing on the Moon.
Your imagination of it is pretty spot on tbh
There’s a shop near me that has one of those sandwich board signs on the sidewalk with some sort of “fuck the billionaires, support small businesses” messaging, but for some idiotic reason, it has the faces of those billionaires on it, so every time I see it, I just get angry.
