• SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca
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    10 days ago

    If you don’t punish parties that step out of line, you risk democracy. If you lose democracy, that’s really punishing yourself.

    As it is, there will be another election, in the Conservatives screw some things up in that time another party can be voted in. Maybe that party will be the NDP, if they show the people that they’ve learned their lesson from this.

    The Conservatives (or any other party) won’t dare do any shenanigans because they don’t want to risk provoking the ire of the voters. At the end of the day, all political parties suck, so you need to keep them all afraid of the voters to keep them in line.

    The lesson is, you don’t fuck with democracy in Canada, not even in the slightest. You try to fuck with democracy, the voters will fuck you up. The NDP just learned this lesson the hard way, but all political parties will remember this.

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      Yes, we’re teaching them BY VOTING IN THE PARTY THAT WAS LITERALLY RECORDED ACTUALLY FUCKING WITH DEMOCRACY.

      Political opportunism isn’t “fucking with democracy”. It’s something people dislike for sure but let’s not conflate that with something like openly discussing bribing people to step down as MLAs.

      Honest to god it’s no wonder things are going the way they are.

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        What you said seems like something that might’ve swayed some votes in 2028, if whoever involved in that was still running for the Conservatives.

        But I just checked the calendar, and it’s not 2028. Here in 2026, the NDP called an unnecessary election and their opportunism and misuse of power was overt and obvious to anyone that can read a calendar.

        Honest to god it’s no wonder things are going the way they are.

        Things are the way they are because too many people have blind loyalty to sleazy politicians that misuse and abuse power. We shouldn’t look the other way when a party does these things. Political parties need to be sent a message, and they all just got a pretty big message from this. The voters are paying more attention to these shenanigans now. No party is more important than democracy.

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          OK big brain, I’ll bite. Please explain how rewarding the conservatives with power is a punishment for their objectively more sleazy actions? Or are you just going to ignore that part of reality?

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            I don’t think you’re using the word “objectively” correctly. It’s not a word that’s supposed to be to denote emphasis, but to indicate that something is quantifiable.

            Here are things that are actually objective. The NDP was the governing party. The previous election was on October 19, 2024. The latest election was just five days more than two years after that.

            This is not the norm. Whatever you’re considering to be objective has to be proven, and it could be debated. But there is no debate that the NDP called an election two years early because they’re opportunistic. You can quantify the cost of an election, prorate it for having an election every two years instead of four, and that’s basically going to come out to what the NDP cost the taxpayer with their shenanigans. Shenanigans that was all about benefiting their party. That’s actually objective. We can measure what the NDP cost the taxpayer in an attempt to secure an easy win and extend their term by two years at the expense of the taxpayer.

            Now are you ignoring the objective reality that the stupidity of the NDP is the reason why the Conservatives are in power? Why don’t you ask them why the NDP did what they did to put these sleazy people in power?

            Seems to me they’re all sleazy. It’s better to have sleazy politicians that are forced to respect the voters rather than sleazy politicians that don’t. The BC NDP are sleazy politicians showed disrespect for the voters. Maybe set aside the NDP kool aid you’re drinking and you’ll better understand why what they did at the party leadership level was wrong and the only way for the party leadership would change is if they lost the election.

            Bottom line is when you have a Premier that’s making stupid decisions (like Eby did) you have to remove that guy from power.

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              Nothing to say about the conservatives except saying “all of them are sleazy”. Says everything you need to know.

              Say it. Say what the conservatives did and why it’s less egregious than calling an early election. Coward. Own up to your allegiances.