The ram, energy, pollution, etc. is the real direct danger for everyone including those of use that avoid LLMs. The data collection is also a danger for the users, and only tangentally a danger for the rest of us.
It’s part of a family of attitudes which include “I don’t care about Politics”, as if pretty much everything involving humans living in society wasn’t in some way or other shaped by politics.
The environmental abuses are pretty slim compared to hundreds of other human activities. People only got excited because they saw their bills go up in some cases. Golf courses for example use far more water. While estimates are all over the place they range from 2x to 5x to 40x, but in any case, fewer people are bitching.
Meanwhile, we’re draining the Colorado river for alfalfa (24% of yearly water use) and export shitloads of it.
The ram, energy, pollution, etc. is the real direct danger for everyone including those of use that avoid LLMs. The data collection is also a danger for the users, and only tangentally a danger for the rest of us.
Only tangentially a danger?
My sweet summer child.
Yeah. I see this attitude on Lemmy a lot. In Linux circles in particular, but elsewhere too.
No one is perfectly insulated from the rest of the world, as much as they’d like to think they are.
It’s part of a family of attitudes which include “I don’t care about Politics”, as if pretty much everything involving humans living in society wasn’t in some way or other shaped by politics.
The environmental abuses are pretty slim compared to hundreds of other human activities. People only got excited because they saw their bills go up in some cases. Golf courses for example use far more water. While estimates are all over the place they range from 2x to 5x to 40x, but in any case, fewer people are bitching.
Meanwhile, we’re draining the Colorado river for alfalfa (24% of yearly water use) and export shitloads of it.
Fuck golf too though, wasteful af, kills local ecosystems, introduces excess fertilizers and pesticides. Makes land less affordable.
And alfalfa used for livestock feed, obviously incedibly wasteful and destructive…
Spot on for comparing to llms, all terrible 😅