You might think West has the mandate from YHWH or Jeebus to dictate terms to the whole world. I don’t.
Pro tip for discussions, inaccurate jabs like this are how you get rightfully labeled as a bad faith actor and are a sign you are trying to mentally position your opponent as dismissable rather than actually argue against their points. Anyways:
You’re overlooking the part where he’s hollowing out and destroying the evil empire from within.
How have Trump’s actions led to the collapse of the “evil empire”? Or how will they? What mechanism will cause this collapse, what does “collapse” mean to you, and why do you expect the end result to be an improvement?
Idk why think the world stops spinning, humanity stops existing and systems stop working if West doesn’t get a final say on everything in everyone else’s life.
It’s not “my solution”. It’s happening regardless of how you and I feel about it.
Idk why think the world stops spinning, humanity stops existing and systems stop working if West doesn’t get a final say on everything in everyone else’s life.
Can you point to where in this thread I showed support for the fascist US government and their pattern of destructive foreign intervention?
why do you expect the end result to be an improvement?
I did not say it would not be an improvement. I asked primarily how you expect the collapse of the united states to happen, and secondarily why you expect the resulting state(s) (it will certainly not remain stateless!) that will come to take the former US’s resources when it collapses to do better than the united states has. Fascism is a cultural problem, and culture comes from the people. Unless you just wiped the USA off the map entirely, a collapse may well make the problem worse by radicalizing the populace and enabling an incredibly large-scale war.
You can’t even acknowledge that billions of humans deserve the right to self determination without Western approval.
Incorrect
You don’t think their lives can improve without West’s paternalistic guidance.
Missed again
You guys go cry about white supremacists losing control. I’ll celebrate it. Life goes on.
It must be fun living in a fantasy land where you invent whatever you want to believe about reality. So fulfilling!
Then why are you so butthurt and crying about me celebrating the demise of USian hegemony? Celebrate with the rest of the world.
an incredibly large-scale war.
Those cost incredible amounts of money. A brokebitch Britain hasn’t been able to colonize Ireland anymore, which was their oldest one. A brokeass USA won’t be able to launch foreign campaigns, overthrow foreign governments etc. Which is a good thing!
how you expect the collapse of the united states to happen
It’s happening regardless of what you or I think or feel. Which is great for the global majority.
radicalizing the populace
They already are. Always have been. It’s a white supremacist shithole.
will come to take the former US’s resources when it collapses to do better than the united states has.
Them losing their grip over the rest of the world doesn’t mean they will cease to exist. Just because USA steals everyone else’s stuff doesn’t mean everyone else will do the same to them.
You are sounding exactly like those USian racists who feared “if we let the slaves be free and equal, they’ll treat us the way we treated them”. Which is not how it played out in real life.
Then why are you so butthurt and crying about me celebrating the demise of USian hegemony? Celebrate with the rest of the world.
Because unfortunately for literally everyone except like 5 people, it’s not collapsing like you think it is, dumbass. There is no magical inflection point. Things just get worse for everyone, slowly, forever. Unless you, you know, actually try to improve the world.
It’s happening regardless of what you or I think or feel. Which is great for the global majority.
Again, it’s just gonna magically collapse just 'cause you really want it to? HOW?
You are sounding exactly like those USian racists who feared “if we let the slaves be free and equal, they’ll treat us the way we treated them”. Which is not how it played out in real life.
In the civil rights movement, society improved by making white people less racist, not by making them EVEN MORE RACIST and hoping they would somehow implode and stop being a problem. Great plan!
Pro tip for discussions, inaccurate jabs like this are how you get rightfully labeled as a bad faith actor and are a sign you are trying to mentally position your opponent as dismissable rather than actually argue against their points. Anyways:
How have Trump’s actions led to the collapse of the “evil empire”? Or how will they? What mechanism will cause this collapse, what does “collapse” mean to you, and why do you expect the end result to be an improvement?
Why do you firmly believe that white supremacists should continue to be the hegemons dictating terms to billions?
Pro tip for real life, majority of the world is tired of western chauvinists acting like they have the right to overrule everyone else.
I don’t, I just also don’t think your “solution” has any chance of working.
You’re entitled to your opinions.
Idk why think the world stops spinning, humanity stops existing and systems stop working if West doesn’t get a final say on everything in everyone else’s life.
It’s not “my solution”. It’s happening regardless of how you and I feel about it.
Can you point to where in this thread I showed support for the fascist US government and their pattern of destructive foreign intervention?
You can’t even acknowledge that billions of humans deserve the right to self determination without Western approval.
You don’t think their lives can improve without West’s paternalistic guidance.
You guys go cry about white supremacists losing control. I’ll celebrate it. Life goes on.
I did not say it would not be an improvement. I asked primarily how you expect the collapse of the united states to happen, and secondarily why you expect the resulting state(s) (it will certainly not remain stateless!) that will come to take the former US’s resources when it collapses to do better than the united states has. Fascism is a cultural problem, and culture comes from the people. Unless you just wiped the USA off the map entirely, a collapse may well make the problem worse by radicalizing the populace and enabling an incredibly large-scale war.
Incorrect
Missed again
It must be fun living in a fantasy land where you invent whatever you want to believe about reality. So fulfilling!
Then why are you so butthurt and crying about me celebrating the demise of USian hegemony? Celebrate with the rest of the world.
Those cost incredible amounts of money. A brokebitch Britain hasn’t been able to colonize Ireland anymore, which was their oldest one. A brokeass USA won’t be able to launch foreign campaigns, overthrow foreign governments etc. Which is a good thing!
It’s happening regardless of what you or I think or feel. Which is great for the global majority.
They already are. Always have been. It’s a white supremacist shithole.
Them losing their grip over the rest of the world doesn’t mean they will cease to exist. Just because USA steals everyone else’s stuff doesn’t mean everyone else will do the same to them.
You are sounding exactly like those USian racists who feared “if we let the slaves be free and equal, they’ll treat us the way we treated them”. Which is not how it played out in real life.
You tell me. You’re the one living in it.
Because unfortunately for literally everyone except like 5 people, it’s not collapsing like you think it is, dumbass. There is no magical inflection point. Things just get worse for everyone, slowly, forever. Unless you, you know, actually try to improve the world.
Again, it’s just gonna magically collapse just 'cause you really want it to? HOW?
In the civil rights movement, society improved by making white people less racist, not by making them EVEN MORE RACIST and hoping they would somehow implode and stop being a problem. Great plan!
It’s embarrassing that this entertains you.