• boobookittyfrick@lemmy.zip
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    21 hours ago

    The argument usually goes something like “okay a woman is beating on me I’m expected to just stand there and take it because if I retaliate at all I’m the aggressor somehow” like the whole “HOW CAN SHE SLAP?!?” Video where dude has like 20 Indian men come beat the fuck out of him for retaliating

    • NotAnOtter@lemmus.org
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      18 hours ago

      If someone is beating on you, you should take the minnimal required action to make the beating stop which normally is just leaving but sometimes can including hitting or stabbing or shooting back.

      But you never “get to” hit them just like you never “get to” be rescued from a burning car. It’s not a privilege, it’s a last resort you hope you never need and the day that you do need it is a sad, dark day.

      • kuhli@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        17 hours ago

        Ultimately the issue is there’s two things people are talking about:

        • Occasional situations when a man has to use self defense against a woman and is viewed as the perpetrator
        • Guys being way to excited to assault someone

        And people just talking past each other without being clear about which theyre talking about or disguising one as the other

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          15 hours ago

          There’s a difference between what some people think of as self defense.

          The most obvious is to act in a way that prevents harm to one self - which would only involve violence as a last resort - but many guys seem to want to see it as “an eye for an eye”, which is a very different thing.

      • zarkanian@sh.itjust.works
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        17 hours ago

        He almost got killed! To make it even more bizarre, the assailants were all yelling insults about the guy’s sister, like “Your sister is a whore!” Apparently, if you want to insult somebody in India, you say bad things about their sister.