Was it a deliberate campaign to starve the people of China?
Yes, it was deliberate.
If you
throw people, including children, into a pond
cut off someone’s nose or ear
brand someone with hot metal
force people to work naked in the middle of winter
ban elderly or sick people from the official canteen and, therefore, starve them to death
then, of course, it is all done deliberately. You can’t do such things by ‘mistake’ … things like that are not simple mismanagement or something like that. They are deliberate crimes.
And, to make it all worse, Mao is even portrayed as a hero by official narratives. It’s not that they don’t condemn him, they literally celebrate him. He was a mass murderer as he stands in the line of history with the worst dictators like Hitler and Stalin.
I’m honestly curious now if your repetition of the same exact phrases equating communism to Nazism is truly organic, but I’ll assume it is. In any case, you have repeated Double Genocide Theory, and have not acknowledged nor challenged that point.
We’ve already established that Frank Dikötter is friendly with the CIA as a propagandist through his work with Radio Free Asia. We know that he selectively presents evidence, while reporting a narrative in line with the right-wing. We also know that he manipulates numbers off of gut feelings, and extrapolates from local anecdotes unscientifically. He’s also fringe in his opinions, and portrays local actions as though they were directly commanded by Mao, rather than autonomous decisions at a local level in the midst of the chaos of famine.
Felix Wemheuer in Famine Politics in Maoist China and the Soviet Union argues that it was ambitious industrialization that led to famine, not a desire to kill millions of Chinese citizens. This is from a western, liberal scholar, who correctly points out that even if the administration has responsibility for mismanagement, it did not have intent. The cases you brought up, that Dikötter selectively shared to provoke an emotional response, do not prove widespread intent to punish Chinese citizens.
Your narrative relies on Chinese people being stupid and incapable of understanding their own historical conditions. Chinese people celebrate Mao not because they are stupid, not because they are evil, but because with Mao came an end to famine, an end to footbinding, an end to imperialism, and the beginning of rapid improvements in living conditions. Even if there were errors along the way, some more major than others, Chinese people understand that the modern prosperity of China today began with Mao.
Honestly became super weird that they kept repeating themselves, and gave no pushback whatsoever to their own positions being called out as chauvanist, pro-colonial, etc.
Was it a deliberate campaign to starve the people of China?
Yes, it was deliberate.
If you
then, of course, it is all done deliberately. You can’t do such things by ‘mistake’ … things like that are not simple mismanagement or something like that. They are deliberate crimes.
And, to make it all worse, Mao is even portrayed as a hero by official narratives. It’s not that they don’t condemn him, they literally celebrate him. He was a mass murderer as he stands in the line of history with the worst dictators like Hitler and Stalin.
I’m honestly curious now if your repetition of the same exact phrases equating communism to Nazism is truly organic, but I’ll assume it is. In any case, you have repeated Double Genocide Theory, and have not acknowledged nor challenged that point.
We’ve already established that Frank Dikötter is friendly with the CIA as a propagandist through his work with Radio Free Asia. We know that he selectively presents evidence, while reporting a narrative in line with the right-wing. We also know that he manipulates numbers off of gut feelings, and extrapolates from local anecdotes unscientifically. He’s also fringe in his opinions, and portrays local actions as though they were directly commanded by Mao, rather than autonomous decisions at a local level in the midst of the chaos of famine.
Felix Wemheuer in Famine Politics in Maoist China and the Soviet Union argues that it was ambitious industrialization that led to famine, not a desire to kill millions of Chinese citizens. This is from a western, liberal scholar, who correctly points out that even if the administration has responsibility for mismanagement, it did not have intent. The cases you brought up, that Dikötter selectively shared to provoke an emotional response, do not prove widespread intent to punish Chinese citizens.
Your narrative relies on Chinese people being stupid and incapable of understanding their own historical conditions. Chinese people celebrate Mao not because they are stupid, not because they are evil, but because with Mao came an end to famine, an end to footbinding, an end to imperialism, and the beginning of rapid improvements in living conditions. Even if there were errors along the way, some more major than others, Chinese people understand that the modern prosperity of China today began with Mao.
I’m just amazed you got that account to make so many comments in a row. Usually they tap out after their 1st reply.
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Honestly became super weird that they kept repeating themselves, and gave no pushback whatsoever to their own positions being called out as chauvanist, pro-colonial, etc.
That is how all their response are. And why it was so surprising they kept going
Who knows!