• Voixe2@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      Damn, lotta nazis in this bar wtf

      Cartoon bear has yellow fur, so comparing an Asian person has some racial connotation in the same way as an old dude pointing at African Americans and saying “blacks”

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      If you don’t see how comparing the leader of an Asian country to a yellow cartoon bear is racist, then you yourself are probably irredeemably racist.

      But on the off chance you’re not: this is like when Trump posted the video of the Obama’s as apes. Does that help put it in perspective?

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      It’s not. The commentator above is just using Israeli style conflation to attempt to dismiss any critique of the Chinese government as racist against Chinese.

      Side note: For the record, I’m not racist. I hate everyone equally.

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        That would be like saying depicting Netanyahu as a hook-nosed goblin is merely criticizing Israel. The reason it’s seen as racist to depict Xi as a yellow bear should not be difficult to put together.

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          What you’re looking for in that comparison is Asian people in a traditional farming had, literal slants for eyes, two large front teeth in the drawing. This clearly is not that.

          Trying to compare something that clearly isn’t that to the Jewish equivalent is an exact representation of what the other user above you was getting at.

          You weren’t even involved and you jumped out of the bushes to tell on yourself.

          Now I’m going to put my seat belt on, because I expect a full ban from all .world instances because of this. I’ve experienced it directly from you already for far less than pointing this shit out. It makes sense that you’d jump at a chance to defend dictators when you pull shit like that as a mod.

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          Winne the pooh is racist now? Dude - the whole reason it became a meme is because someone made a cute comparison of how Xi looks like Pooh (which he objectively does) and the whiny little bitch threw a hissy fit and created his own personal Streisand effect. It has nothing to do with the Chinese people and everything to do with a thin-skinned dictator.

          Remove your head from your ass before you speak. You’ll sound a lot smarter.

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            No, Xi does not “objectively look like Winnie the Pooh.” I understand that you may not have intended on being racist from the outset, but do you really need to be explained why depicting a Chinese man as a yellow cartoon is racist?

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              Sure he doesn’t…

              By your logic, the Simpsons are racist against Chinese because they have yellow skin. Again, you keep talking, but all that comes out is incoherent bullshit.

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                the Simpsons are racist against Chinese because they have yellow skin

                The Simpsons writers have openly apologized for their depiction of South Asians on a number of occasions

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                  I do not see the resemblance.

                  If you took your head out of your ass like I originally suggested instead of trying to push the CCP’s bullshit, you would.

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                    CCP

                    Shouldn’t you at least learn enough about the subject to know the actual name of the party you’re demonizing if you’re gonna insist you’re so “not racist”?

                    They are the Communist Party of China.

                    Saying “Chinese Communist Party” is a Western way of making sure you’re reminded up front that these are dirty foreigners, not to be trusted.

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                    I could say the same to you, for refusing to see depicting a Chinese man as a yellow cartoon as racist. The west isn’t free of such a history of using racist caricatures.

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                They really don’t look alike, though. Where’s the similarly, they have broad faces, or? I don’t think the comparison is racist, because it doesn’t make enough sense to be racist in the first place. Insisting on it this hard is just weird.

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            what’s racist about depicting jews as goblins?

            that’s not how you worded it but how it sounds like.

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              Again, I’m referring to one dude, you’re the one conflating it to an entire race of people.

              Do better next time, and don’t be racist, okay?

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                  Is it racism if I call Netanyahu a dipshit for being a genocidal maniac?

                  Or Hitler a dipshit for same reason?

                  Or any of the other dipshit dictators like Xi?

                  You see the problem with your logic?

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                    all of those constantly get called dipshits all of the time, actually. in all manner of different ways, by different kinds of people. through decades.

                    talk about a persecution complex. are we not literally in a highly upvoted thread shitting on mao zedong already?

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                  I know your’re trying to frame it as racism, however I like Chinese people and have many close friends from the region.

                  I do have great disdain for murderous dictators, that you seem to be referring to as “innocent Chinese man”, but the gaslighting won’t work buddy.

                  Get that dictator dick out of your mouth, okay? 🙂

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                    Weird homophobia on your part, and Xi Jinping isn’t a “murderous dictator.” China is a democratic country, with some of the highest perceptions of democracy among its citizenry in the world:

                    Further, China is not at war with anyone, nor have they been at war in many decades. What’s with you right-wingers and sexually harassing other people online?

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          Extremely different in historical context, considering one is a stereotype of a victim of genocide (obviously, the Jewish people, not Nathanyhu, fuck that guy slightly harder than Xi), and the other is specific to the leader of a nation perpetuating it.

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            The only nation perpetrating genocide here is Israel in Palestine, but even if historical context is different, what remains the same is the basis of the insult in racism!

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      It’s not.

      Tankies like to argue that comparing Xi Xiping to Winnie the Pooh is racist because Winnie the Pooh is that off orange-yellow colour, and it’s easy to pretend racism starts and ends at vague commentary about skin colour and not, you know, power structures and oppression.

      But it’s an argument of convinience, brought to you by the same people who scream “ReAd ThEoRy!!” when obscure, specific and often misunderstood academic understandings of complex political systems are more useful to their mental gymnastics.

      What actually matters is that it upsets a dictator of one of the most powerful countries of the world. And fuck that guy in particular.

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        But it’s an argument of convinience, brought to you by the same people who scream “ReAd ThEoRy!!” when obscure, specific and often misunderstood academic understandings of complex political systems are more useful to their mental gymnastics.

        What actually matters is that it upsets a dictator of one of the most powerful countries of the world. And fuck that guy in particular.

        Am I reading this correct, you’re saying it does not matter if it’s racist, merely that it upsets the target?

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              I literally open the post with “it’s not racist.” To ignore that and read the rest of the post as “I don’t care if it is racist” is either intentionally dishonest, or incredibly stupid. Regardless of whether or not you agree with my take, those are the only two options for misrepresenting my opinion as “I don’t care if it is racist,” so take your pick on which of the two you think you’re being right now.