transcription: open letter to the lgbtq. dear lgbtq, you are the most inclusive community i know. it is an honor to hang with you. i think it is time to step up your game and add one more letter. s as in straight. -slgbtq supporter.

THE STRAIGHTS ARE AT IT AGAIN. putting the s at the front of lgbtq is by far the straightest straight person thing i have ever seen

  • Macchi_the_Slime@piefed.blahaj.zone
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    Idk I’m still mad about all the “Allies” that have tried to take the A away from Ace people. Hell, I’ve had a concerning number of queer people try to tell me that I didn’t count as queer because “Non-binary isn’t Real” and Asexual isn’t part of LGBTQIA+ because the A stands for “Ally”

    • alapakala@quokk.au
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      It’s like this: LGBTQIA+ a

      I’ve had a concerning number of queer people try to tell me that I didn’t count as queer because “Non-binary isn’t Real”

      yikes😬, I hope you’re able to emigrate from them. Us siblings have to stick together🤝🫂.

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          fyi, I edited this comment like 7×, I had misread Macchi_the_Slime’s concern like 3×. My 🧠 was in inclusion mode, not “friendo, there’s bigotry even among queer spaces.”
          All enbies are valid✊🏿

          and yes, I comprehended your linguistic snide, which is my I reacted w/“😭”

          lemmy doesn’t receive pylova reacts.

          • SuperNovaStar@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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            I edited this comment like 7x

            See that, now my comment no longer makes sense.

            In general, though, I think labels like “queer” or “gender and sexual minorities” are better than trying to list a bunch of identities because you both make the acronym way too long to be useful and also you’re bound to leave someone out no matter how long the list is.

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              it depends the scenario, zeitgeist, & language.

              Macchi & I are enbies. We are also polyglots. English itself borrowed a lot of lavender words from European languages, so we can include ourselves when speaking in queer spaces. Macchi, my wife, and I (3 different people) have experienced enby rejection & exclusion from queer spaces, physical & online.

              Now when talking to receptive cisfolk, and a generalization is required, I can see the utility of saying “genderless.” But when we want to be included, say during socialization, just add us in to solidarity with us. We are supposed to be inclusionary, not separatists. Statists usually use “sexual minorities” derogatorily, not inclusive at all. So I’d be careful when and how I am excluded when referred as a minority.

              • SuperNovaStar@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                I’m so confused. Clearly you’re having another conversation that i’m missing context for. 😅

                I’m sorry that you’ve been excluded from queer spaces and I feel fortunate that I haven’t experienced that myself (perhaps that’s due to me rarely interacting with cis people other than at work - all the queer spaces i’m in are made by and for trans and nonbinary folks). I hope you have a great day!

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                  all the queer spaces i’m in are made by and for trans and nonbinary folks

                  glad you have.

                  I hope when we are able to emigrate as well, I can find enby inclusive spaces, third places, and family. Macchi was reminding me of what we have experienced in several “queer spaces.” Wife just relearned a lesson about unsafe online spaces.

                  I’m sorry that you’ve been excluded from queer spaces

                  thank you for reading our experiences. I hope it makes your lives fuller.

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      Serious question (trying not to troll here). At what point is the acronym too big? And, even accidentally, dropping any letter earns you the ire of that group. Is there more inclusive term that covers the spectrum of “I support everything, as long as you wash your hands”?

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        Well they missed 2S above so basically dead to me.

        But to seriously answer your question, if it’s too long you can just say queer.

        It’s a best effort every time and highly contextual besides. So more explicitly inclusive is better, but if someone says ^LGBT$ full stop and they’re not obviously being a TERF or signalling excluding folx in other ways then it’s just whatever.