No reason given in modlog, just permaban.
My only comment there in the past week or more:
I messaged the lone active mod politely asking if there had been a mistake or what the reason was, but have not received a reply despite them making multiple posts since.
Sucks, I’ve blocked the .world news comms and had been using this one since pretty much the beginning. Now this bullshit comes along.
Well, this is a borderline YDI
Nobody can tell your intent, only what you say.
And what you said is something that a lot of bigots say to denigrate and belittle the lgbtq+ community. Like, exactly what gets said, calling the string ridiculous as a way to call the community ridiculous.
Now, there are ways to express frustration with lengthy acronyms. It can absolutely be frustrating, and even the people using the longer versions sometimes complain about it. But when you use a dog whistle, even if you aren’t aware it is one, people that are protecting their communities are fully justified in taking action based on that, and it’s up to the person using said dog whistle to justify their use, not the mods’ to justify taking action.
It isn’t power tripping, it is one aspect of exactly what a mod is supposed to do, serve as a bouncer in effect, so that things don’t turn into a nazi bar.
I doubt that you intended it that way, because intending that and then posting here would be so monumentally stupid I can’t believe anyone would do so. But it is still you having done something that merited mod action, hence the borderline YDI.
Fwiw, as frustrating as long acronyms can be to figure out, it isn’t mandatory to use the longer versions. Generally, LGBTQ is going to pass muster most places. Throw the + on there, and I’ve never seen anyone be an asshole about it not being more. Sure, some folks will take an opportunity to bring awareness of the various groups that the + can cover, but it’s generally accepted that Queer covers a lotof territory by itself, and the use of + isn’t ignoring other groups, it’s just preventing things from getting unwieldy.
There’s enough justification for a zero tolerance policy for common dog whistles that I’m confident this isn’t PTB territory at all. While it’s possible the mod in question was overstepping in some way that’s not visible, or wasn’t acting in good faith, it’s a policy a lot of ally spaces have, and plenty of LGBTQ+ communities have. Should have given a reason though
I can understand that, but that’s where communication should come into play. As a mod they should be reaching out to warn or express their concerns, not reaching directly for the nuclear option. And on top of that ignoring my (polite) attempt at deescalation and clarification.
(I didn’t downvote you, btw)
Communication probably could happen, but you’re not the first nor last person they have to deal with. Who knows you might be the 100th person they banned for similar comments from real bigots. The probability that you aren’t could be slim to none and not worth the hassle to them.
It shouldn’t be always up to them to communicate to you, it should be equally up to you to be educated on the comments and greater meaning of the comments you post (the dog whistle phrase).
up to you to be educated on the comments and greater meaning of the comments you post (the dog whistle phrase).
Expecting every last person to be up to date on whatever nonsense the far right is pulling is unrealistic. Do you Google every phase you utter to make sure it doesn’t have another meaning to some group? This is just more of the left eating the left as usual.
Personally my first thought on reading a comment like that is “bigot” and then I block them. Not really anything to do with the far right.
Venn diagram of the 2 is basically a circle… :)
Expecting every mod to send a “hey buddy, you made a meanie head comment, plz no” is unrealistic when they have much more important things to do and their own damn lives. If 95% of people who say that dog whistle mean it, why the fuck should he think you’re an exception to that, race off to tend you and give you a forehead kiss and tell you he’s sowwie?
They could add a few words for the ban reason. “Mocking inclusive acronymns” would have been a good reason.
. If 95% of people who say that dog whistle mean it,
Well for one thing, it’s NOT a dog whistle in Asia, so that’s a pretty fucking big part of the global population. You’re taking western cultural quirks and assuming the entire world is familiar with them.
Do you Google every phase you utter to make sure it doesn’t have another meaning to some group?
I’ll read this, as if you’rnt educated on netiqutte. I am aware of my privileges, so I am olive branching. Heck, given that my wife had to “whoop a libie” a day ago, I may make this a !whatever@quokk.au essay.
This is just more of the left eating the left as usual.
Now, this is a blatant wolfsgeheul. Please educate yourself.
Only reply to me back, when you have read these 3 pamphlets. Otherwise, we really don’t have to interact.
You’re severely overestimating your value if you think anybody’s going to read 3 pamphlets before they can talk to you.
Otherwise, we really don’t have to interact.
OK?
I left quokk.au because of the constant drama and bullshit like this, and the dumb anarchists flotilla stuff.
It’s the internet man and the mod is some guy doing it for free. He has to face down 100 idiots like you a day probably and I don’t begrudge him for not being caring about it.
And on top of that ignoring my (polite) attempt at deescalation and clarification.
I have replied to your message like an hour ago
Hey Deceptichum! Long time no see, I thought you had left.
I’m honestly not seeing any reply in my message inbox, weirdly. Do DMs get federation issues?
I lurk once a month or two, but I got told to see this thread as I’m the one who did the ban.
Not sure why you’re not getting it, might be a software or instance issue. I saw your testing message however, so it’s coming through fine form your end.
As for the ban it was reported but also because I found it m pretty deragotory sounding towards both queer and First Nations people. If it was genuinely not intended that way and rather poor choice of words, I’m happy to unban.
If it was genuinely not intended that way and rather poor choice of words, I’m happy to unban.
I’m an ally so no, it is definitely not intended that way. Rather, I found it slightly ridiculous because my mind was connecting it with 99% SLAs, in addition to its obvious unwieldiness for general usage. I’m not aware of its use as a dog whistle and can attest it’s a fairly common opinion in Asia, even among those of the lgbt persuasion. Something that I find crops up as an issue fairly regularly online - a lot of moderation doesn’t take into account that many users have a very different culture where they live.
@quokka@quokk.au, you wanna check it out? Possibility that messaging is broken on pylova
How dare you don’t know how to be PC in Canada! Burn him!
Sorry, eh?
PC? personal computer? am confused
Oh, THAT pc
- congrats on your unban
- mmmhmm, I require further input irt 2SLGBTQIA+
- Since I am not a Turtle Islander, I seek your wisdom @derisionconsulting@lemmy.ca & @Ianthe__Tridentarius@lemmy.blahaj.zone 🙇
- 🧵
- Should I make an !nonbinary@lemmy.blahaj.zone 🧵?
Sorry, what exactly are you asking? Whether or not I think this person was doing queerphobic dogwhistling or something?
I require further input irt 2SLGBTQIA+
Where can I find more resources in regards to two spirits, the choice to preppend “2S” in «LGBTQIA+», and modern communities?
If you’re willing to indulge me in my inquiry, would it be ok to pursue this in a brand new !nonbinary@lemmy.blahaj.zone thread?AwesomeLowlander is partially unraveling es mask with me. I already justifiable called out es wolfhowl in this thread.
Ummm I don’t really have any sources off the top of my head, I’d just run a search for “2slgbtq acronym origin” or something. And I mean sure, if you want to run another thread about it, why not?
Thank you for indulging me🙇. Question made.
