An intrusive thought is an unwelcome, involuntary thought, image, or unpleasant idea that may become an obsession, is upsetting or distressing, and can feel difficult to manage or eliminate.
An intrusive thought is an unwelcome, involuntary thought, image, or unpleasant idea that may become an obsession, is upsetting or distressing, and can feel difficult to manage or eliminate.
Respectfully, can you cite a 3rd party source for the claim that ‘transwoman’ is a slur? I am having difficulty finding any form of documentation for that and I want to better understand its distinction.
Everything I see online seems to affirm it as the same as “trans woman”. I can even find it being used by trans women in a non-slur fashion, but I am having trouble finding it used as a slur. Thanks in advance.
They just made it up
First source I happened to find
“Slur” might have been a hyperbolic phrasing (as I am sick and tired of seeing this kind of language) but at minimum it is offensive. Subtly derogatory and harmful language is everywhere, and lots of people adopt it without really realising the ramifications (c.f. “biological sex”).
I suppose we could have a semantic argument about the difference between a true slur and this kind of thing, but I think it’s somewhat besides the point. I’m not here to admonish anyone for accidentally using harmful language, I just want people to use better language.
I do think hyperbolically calling it a slur is not helping your cause. I understand the logic as to why “trans woman” is usually preferable (though, see OP’s response for how there might be exceptions), but it’s more one of those small linguistic things that can make a difference in perception that is used innocently 90% of the time, which is very different from a slur.
For instance, the reason I always defaulted to “transwoman” is simply that in my native language, you generally don’t put spaces between compounds (I’ve made an effort to change it tho since u started pointing it out since as I said I get the reasoning). Assuming nefarious intentions for something like this isn’t likely to get people on your side
Calling a word someone used a slur does not necessarily assume nefarious intentions; slurs are used unknowingly by some people quite often. See for instance some older people who unthinkingly use words that were not considered slurs in their youth.
As I said in another comment, I didn’t and am not assuming nefarious intent, I just want people to stop using offensive language.
Thank you for the excellent response.
From where I am slurs are used against minorities as default. Nigger comes from history of oppression and mispronouncitation of the Spanish word for while transwoman has it written there itself. While latter is not even frowned upon the former requires social/historical context. Idk why you would even need a source. If I get banned for my comment it is what is. I just find it stupid to say N-word when we’re talking about the same word and only the word itself.
For what it’s worth, you don’t seem to be using it with malicious intent. That’s my determining factor for taking action.
I do appreciate people not using any in the first place though. So let’s, you know, not use any?
Rsspectfully, I’d like a source because I have seen this spelling used innocently in the wild, can find it used innocently in searches and cannot find any use of it as a slur. The OP made an innocent post and “correcting” them with a condescending tone seems a bit much. But I genuinely want to respect the facts, so I was as polite as I could be about it. And then I got a more condescending, defensive response from you, a person who feels entitled to use slurs.
I’m just old enough to not give a teeny tiny chicken fried fuck what tough guys and bullies think (online or in person) and am happy to stand up in direct defense of people innocently baring themselves. In this case, OP happens to be a pretty decent person (as evidenced by their post history) and I feel a bit more motivated than usual to step in and speak up on their behalf when they are borderline accused of using a slur. Something you are overtly guilty of in your defense of the person I am politely questioning.
Want to keep going? I don’t have a lot of time left on earth and I am going to spend as much of it as possible fucking with bullies. So, let’s play!
(Not defending the comment you replied to)
FWIW, I appreciate that you were polite. I can see how my tone was interpreted as condescending, which is not ideal for changing minds, though as a woman who actually is trans and is well versed in the sociopolitical and linguistic context of this discussion, I felt it was quite reasonable to take offense and respond as such.
Your correction was warranted and is helpful for allies to support our family and friends. Sometimes a friendly tone is hard to convey in text. And gawd knows what nonstop bullshit the trans community (and loved ones like OP) has to deal with from actual bigots, so I’m grateful for the education every chance I can get it. Thank you.