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jackeroni@lemmy.ml to Memes@lemmy.ml · 1 month ago

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    “merely the captain of the team”.

    LOL. Ever see the team photos?

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      The fact that the CPSU was under constant danger of infiltration and espionage, and thus needed to be purged, does not contradict Stalin’s reported style of leadership as recognized by the CIA in an internal document shared in the meme above. The USSR, throughout its early period (founding until end of World War II), was under constant siege, invasions by capitalist powers, civil war, and active infiltrarion by fascists. These drastic conditions required resolute actions, ones broadly supported both by the party as well as by the general population. We are cutting out the Cold War and Red Scare for the purpose of this conversation, but it wasn’t that the siege lessened, it just changed character.

      Stalin’s style of leadership in meetings was generally recognized as being quiet, allowing other members of the Politburo to speak up first, contemplating, then coming to a firm motion to push for and vote on. This was an effective method of leadership, and is what the CIA is principly describing here as being a “captain of the team.” Additionally, Stalin tried to resign no fewer than 4 times, all of which were rejected. Had he abandoned his post against the wishes of the Politburo, there would possibly be political crisis.

      I recommend you read Domenico Losurdo’s Stalin: History and Critique of a Black Legend. Losurdo challenges the liberal over-demonization of Stalin while shedding accurate light on Stalin’s real and genuine shortcomings and mistakes. It’s perhaps the best attempt by a modern writer to utilize all of the information we actually have available to sweep away the mountain of Red Scare propaganda to recognize the real Stalin, both good and bad.

      • ∞🏳️‍⚧️Edie [it/its, she/her, fae/faer, love/loves, null/void, des/pair, none/use name]@lemmy.ml
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        Anna Louise Strong on Stalin (re your second paragraph)

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          Great excerpt! Definitely helps to show his method in action.

          • ∞🏳️‍⚧️Edie [it/its, she/her, fae/faer, love/loves, null/void, des/pair, none/use name]@lemmy.ml
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            I didn’t even realise it was an excerpt.

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              Essay? Article? Don’t know what the word for it is, excerpt is wrong though now that I think about it.

              • ∞🏳️‍⚧️Edie [it/its, she/her, fae/faer, love/loves, null/void, des/pair, none/use name]@lemmy.ml
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                No, the source lists it as being pp 46-64 from The Soviets Expected It

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                  Oh, I was accidentally right then, haha. Does that make me double wrong? 😅

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      Fun fact: these photos were actually doctored by the cia to make him look more like a dictator.

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          Comes to .ml, removed about the .ml accounts.

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              It’s okay to shit on Stalin on a Marxist-Leninist board, the synthesizer of Marxism-Leninism? MLs don’t uphold Stalin as a god, but we also don’t engage in historical nihilism, cedeing the historical narrative to the bourgeoisie and liberal historian perspectives. Stalin was no saint, but was far more effective and moral than contemporary leaders like Churchill and Hitler.

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                It’s OK to shit on anyone when what they are saying is counter to, you know, REALITY.

                Yes, Stalin was having photographs heavily redacted.

                No, it wasn’t “the CIA”.

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                  I didn’t say the USSR didn’t doctor photographs to remove purged members. In my reply to your upper level comment, I explained why the purges were necessary and elaborated on their context. Nothing I said in that comment is counter to reality, I even brought sources.

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                    I never said the purges were un-necessary, and I wasn’t shitting on your comment.

                    I was shitting on the comment saying Stalin didn’t do it, it was the CIA.

                    It’s CLEAR Stalin did it, both the purges and the photo edits.

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              Shouldn’t you be banning yourself for “internet slap fighting” right about now?

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      The “i voted” is just 😚👌

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