There is literally no link I could have found that would not have triggered your criticism. There is literally no Western media outlet that would not be labeled “empire-sanctioned” by you.
The PBS articles only source seems to be the American government, that seems very much “empire sanctioned”.
The other one has a little more diversity, it cites the American government, national defense think tank analysts, and a company who’s primary customer seems to be the American government.
Would you trust an article exclusively citing oil companies, their associated think tanks, and companies that they are closely linked with money-wise?
On a tour in late September sponsored by Beijing, the 22 journalists from 17 countries visited bazaars [in Xinjiang] and chatted with residents over dates and watermelon slices. They later told state media they were impressed with the bustling economy, described the region as “full of cultural, religious and ethnic diversity,” and denounced what they said were lies by Western media.
The trip is an example of what Washington sees as Beijing’s growing efforts to reshape the global narrative on China. It’s spending billions of dollars annually to do so.
In a first-of-its-kind report, the State Department last week laid out Beijing’s tactics and techniques for molding public opinion, such as buying content, creating fake personas to spread its message and using repression to quash unfavorable accounts.
You are deeply unserious. Even the lack of evidence is clandestine by your thinking.
The U.S. military launched a clandestine program amid the COVID crisis to discredit China’s Sinovac inoculation – payback for Beijing’s efforts to blame Washington for the pandemic. One target: the Filipino public. Health experts say the gambit was indefensible and put innocent lives at risk.
Does this threaten “international security”, liberal?
Oh no, I agree, it was definitely aimed at the Chinese vaccine at first, but then it turned broadly anti-vax because Trump is too incompetent to keep private things private.
Imperialism is when a country (or any political group, I guess) pushes their worldview onto others. That’s without looking anything up so I may have forgotten some aspect.
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Okay, I looked it up. I agree with the definition I found that says it’s more about exerting power than just “worldview”. That seems like a better definition.
This thread is going towards the conclusion that you’ve adopted a definition of imperialism that is so broad as to be unworkable, because it treats all political violence as being the same thing.
Hey I know you’re getting a bunch of responses so I don’t want to be unhelpful and pile on, but I am curious if you actually dispute either of the claims this meme makes (Churchill blaming the famine on India, Mao personally taking steps to cut his consumption during a famine and being critical of his own policy). Because if you don’t think it’s wrong I’m not sure why you are posting this response. The Chinese don’t care if you vote for Churchill or Mao, neither are even candidates for election in the United States. This could not be less about what you’ve posted.
China, however, has taken a more cautious, nuanced approach. Beijing sees little advantage in supporting one presidential candidate over the other, intelligence analysts say. Instead, China’s disinformation efforts focus on campaign issues particularly important to Beijing
Oh no if we can trust unnamed “intelligence analysts”, you know, probably the same people who manufactured russiagate, spend billions on foreign desinformation campaigns and are famous for toppling democratically elected officials around the world, then China is accused of meddling in the elections! Allegedly, they do it by providing, well… impartial and relevant information without favoring any candidate. But they cunningly limit their evil public relations campaign to issues pertaining to their own country, which is… bad for some reason.
And even more wicked: by pretending to be Americans, they evade the natural American defense mechanism against r̶e̶a̶s̶o̶n̶ outside influence: racism. How will we know to ignore their logic and their pleas for peace and cooperation, if we don’t know their skin color?! Heavens! If this is allowed to continue, the rampant preparations for a nuclear apocalypse inducing war against China might continue to accelerate in a somewhat less feverish frenzy! Better crank internet cencorship up to eleven stat, that’s the only way to protect democracy.
/s
https://apnews.com/article/china-disinformation-network-foreign-influence-us-election-a2b396518bafd8e36635a3796c8271d7
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/a-global-chinese-disinformation-initiative-could-threaten-international-security-u-s-officials-warn
Wowie, so you post empire-sanctioned liberal propaganda on a meme about the propaganda of liberal media. Wow so big brain!
There is literally no link I could have found that would not have triggered your criticism. There is literally no Western media outlet that would not be labeled “empire-sanctioned” by you.
Right
What sources would you consider trustworthy?
Anything that doesn’t fall under the empire umbrella, as was clear:
So theOnion.com is trust worthy?
Kidding aside, I was hoping you could give some specific examples.
At least you know you’re being lied to with the onion
I’m not arguing against that, I’m just asking for examples of trustworthy sources.
So if I make an official-looking website on my home server, slap a fancy sounding domain on it, and send it to you, you’ll trust it?
Answer the question. You answered the opposite question of “what won’t you trust?”
And if you don’t have an answer, it’s okay to say you need to reconsider what your criteria are. That’s okay. That’s how we figure things out
Internet memes
The PBS articles only source seems to be the American government, that seems very much “empire sanctioned”.
The other one has a little more diversity, it cites the American government, national defense think tank analysts, and a company who’s primary customer seems to be the American government.
Would you trust an article exclusively citing oil companies, their associated think tanks, and companies that they are closely linked with money-wise?
You are deeply unserious. Even the lack of evidence is clandestine by your thinking.
Pentagon ran secret anti-vax campaign to undermine China during pandemic
Does this threaten “international security”, liberal?
The anti-vax campaign wasn’t all that clandestine, though. It might have initially been, but Trump sure let the cat out of the bag with his nonsense.
So what is a clandestine propaganda campaign if not this kind of shit:
Oh no, I agree, it was definitely aimed at the Chinese vaccine at first, but then it turned broadly anti-vax because Trump is too incompetent to keep private things private.
Okay. So you see what I’m saying then. Imperialists do this stuff.
Except what you have linked was already US State department propaganda
Could you please define imperialism in anywhere between 20 and 1000 words?
Imperialism is when a country (or any political group, I guess) pushes their worldview onto others. That’s without looking anything up so I may have forgotten some aspect.
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Okay, I looked it up. I agree with the definition I found that says it’s more about exerting power than just “worldview”. That seems like a better definition.
? imperialism is when a country or group exerts power?
Yes? I don’t know where this thread is going.
This thread is going towards the conclusion that you’ve adopted a definition of imperialism that is so broad as to be unworkable, because it treats all political violence as being the same thing.
Okay. I don’t know what else to say.
What a bizarre definition. Apparently any activist group is an empire.
House passes $1.6 billion to deliver anti-China propaganda overseas
Hey I know you’re getting a bunch of responses so I don’t want to be unhelpful and pile on, but I am curious if you actually dispute either of the claims this meme makes (Churchill blaming the famine on India, Mao personally taking steps to cut his consumption during a famine and being critical of his own policy). Because if you don’t think it’s wrong I’m not sure why you are posting this response. The Chinese don’t care if you vote for Churchill or Mao, neither are even candidates for election in the United States. This could not be less about what you’ve posted.
Oh no if we can trust unnamed “intelligence analysts”, you know, probably the same people who manufactured russiagate, spend billions on foreign desinformation campaigns and are famous for toppling democratically elected officials around the world, then China is accused of meddling in the elections! Allegedly, they do it by providing, well… impartial and relevant information without favoring any candidate. But they cunningly limit their evil public relations campaign to issues pertaining to their own country, which is… bad for some reason.
And even more wicked: by pretending to be Americans, they evade the natural American defense mechanism against r̶e̶a̶s̶o̶n̶ outside influence: racism. How will we know to ignore their logic and their pleas for peace and cooperation, if we don’t know their skin color?! Heavens! If this is allowed to continue, the rampant preparations for a nuclear apocalypse inducing war against China might continue to accelerate in a somewhat less feverish frenzy! Better crank internet cencorship up to eleven stat, that’s the only way to protect democracy. /s
Seems like a boring rerun of russiagate which was just declassified as an op.
Lmaoooooooo
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