Please keep the spyware on the spyware operating system.
I’ve been a Linux user nearly exclusively) for over 20 years, I still keep an iPad and a windows desktop around for government stuff because the their apps and websites don’t work on my hardened systems (sus) or through TOR (less sus).
I can play SF6 and Dota2 on Linux. Are those not competitive? If I’m able to play these games free of cheaters on Linux, what’s stopping any other company from allowing me to play my games there? Guess what, games with kernel-level anti-cheat still have cheaters even when they universally block Linux from playing at all. Will allowing the OS with ~3% market share (specifically the subset of that 3% that will even be playing that game) make the cheater population skyrocket?
I know your point is that you simply won’t switch if you can’t use/play what you want, but you’re complaining about an instance where the only thing preventing you from doing that is the corporation who makes the product, and has nothing to do with Linux itself.
After the whole crowd strike debacle Microsoft is trying to remove most things from the kernel into user land, including anti-cheat.
If this will actually makes wine possible for those games is still up for debate but either way kernel-level anti-cheat seems to be on the way out.
If you look at just PC gaming, Steam charts show that the big competitive kernel-level AC titles are way down, the biggest one is the newest Rainbow 6, with 80k players of the 36 million people active on Steam right now, 10 million being in-game. Funny thing is, the biggest Steam title is indeed a competitive online shooter, CS2, but it runs fine on Linux.
If it was competitive gaming that was the only reason people aren’t on Linux, most other segments would have seen a mass migration already. Competitive games can’t explain why 95%+ of the community is not on Linux.
I’m gently nudging my kid towards Linux though. But i have a feeling he will swap as soon as he encounters resistance or technical issues. Such as not being able to play the “new” game with his friends.
Read my comment again.
“…no alternative available”
Believe me, there are a lot of users that their software needed for their job only works on Windows.
It’s not even some Adobe, Office, or generic software that we often hear. These software is hyperly specific that you will only know if you do the job.
Moving to Linux without any actual software equivalent is basically asking them to abandon their jobs.
Software and games.
No matter some people claims, there are always software/games that simply won’t run on Linux or no alternative available.
The newer updates to Wine are making that less relevant.
I only play competitive online. Kernel anti-cheat does not work on Linux.
And hopefully never will.
Please keep the spyware on the spyware operating system.
I’ve been a Linux user nearly exclusively) for over 20 years, I still keep an iPad and a windows desktop around for government stuff because the their apps and websites don’t work on my hardened systems (sus) or through TOR (less sus).
Then the gaming community will never move to Linux. Easy as that.
The competitive online gaming community is not the gaming community.
Wrong, but it’s ok if you think that.
I think you could add
“, but it is a part of that community”.
And you get the idea of what is being said.
I can play SF6 and Dota2 on Linux. Are those not competitive? If I’m able to play these games free of cheaters on Linux, what’s stopping any other company from allowing me to play my games there? Guess what, games with kernel-level anti-cheat still have cheaters even when they universally block Linux from playing at all. Will allowing the OS with ~3% market share (specifically the subset of that 3% that will even be playing that game) make the cheater population skyrocket? I know your point is that you simply won’t switch if you can’t use/play what you want, but you’re complaining about an instance where the only thing preventing you from doing that is the corporation who makes the product, and has nothing to do with Linux itself.
Kernel anti-cheat won’t work on windows soon anyways
Ok, I’ll bite.
How come?
After the whole crowd strike debacle Microsoft is trying to remove most things from the kernel into user land, including anti-cheat. If this will actually makes wine possible for those games is still up for debate but either way kernel-level anti-cheat seems to be on the way out.
https://pureinfotech.com/microsoft-removes-antivirus-windows-kernel/
Competitive online gaming is a very small niche of the gaming community.
I beg to differ. Otherwise there would already have been an exodus to linux
People are on Windows because of inertia.
If you look at just PC gaming, Steam charts show that the big competitive kernel-level AC titles are way down, the biggest one is the newest Rainbow 6, with 80k players of the 36 million people active on Steam right now, 10 million being in-game. Funny thing is, the biggest Steam title is indeed a competitive online shooter, CS2, but it runs fine on Linux.
If it was competitive gaming that was the only reason people aren’t on Linux, most other segments would have seen a mass migration already. Competitive games can’t explain why 95%+ of the community is not on Linux.
I’m on Windows because the games i want to play doesn’t work on linux. Simple as that.
I know. What I’m saying is that your experience isn’t universal.
Numbers don’t lie.
I’m gently nudging my kid towards Linux though. But i have a feeling he will swap as soon as he encounters resistance or technical issues. Such as not being able to play the “new” game with his friends.
That first sentence is so greasy
It’s a nice outlet for my competitive nature. I get close to zero enjoyment from single player games or pve.
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Did you know there’s Linux software that doesn’t run on windows too?
There’s always something, and it’s an easy excuse. How many people using that excuse actually have one of those few missing pieces blocking them?
And frankly, it’s so easy to dual boot at this point. I do get it, I have to hang on to windows to use fusion360, at least for certain projects.
I’ll be damned if I’m going to waste my time and patience on windows for anything I can avoid though.
Read my comment again. “…no alternative available”
Believe me, there are a lot of users that their software needed for their job only works on Windows. It’s not even some Adobe, Office, or generic software that we often hear. These software is hyperly specific that you will only know if you do the job.
Moving to Linux without any actual software equivalent is basically asking them to abandon their jobs.
Read my comment again. “Dual booting is so easy now…”
Yeah I covered that issue pretty directly.