still deciding to fully degoogle with GOS or muddling through with what I have (proprietary, data grabbing and bloated).

To understand the question, compare with my main hardware with debian on it: a regular notebook I bought in 2016 and I’ve used heavily for all kinds of stuff: working, writing papers, downloading and playing media including AV1, editing audio, torrenting…

One of the best investments I ever made, considering what I paid and how prices nowadays are. Debian offers regular upgrades and I don’t have to check if my hardware is going to support the software on a level comparable with android devices (GOS only runs on pixels, other open-source, privacy focused Android operating systems have similar hardware restrictions).

I want this kind of ROI for the device I buy and the software I use, but I don’t know if that’s possible:

GOS drops support for older pixels but I don’t know how many years any particular device is supported by GOS: 3 years? not enough. There’s no way I’m buying a new pixel every 3 years. I’d even consider 6 years restrictive.

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    Some of the mentioned things are real issues, but normal users dont care about physical security. If your physical security is threatened, then your failure point will be a pipe wrench.

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      I see the point, but there’s a certain dignity in being able to go out with your secrets instead of having some spill them for you without so much as a fight. Unless they whip out the truth serum, idk what I’d do then.

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      Counterpoint: Yeah, but if ICE kicks in your door would be comforting to know that powering your phone off prevents it from being cellebrighted. GrapheneOS with a supported Pixel device is one of the few smartphones that they can’t exploit from BFU.

      The federal government isn’t using wrenches (yet)

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      This meme doesn’t really apply to Graphene OS when you can just give the duress password which permanently wipes the phone.

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          You’d give the duress password before you get pipewrenched.

          And once it’s wiped there’s no point in them pipewrenching you because its too late.

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            no need for one when you have a pipe wrench and the smartass you are interrogating just wiped their phone.

            maybe you can make them squeak out something useful that was in there?

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              By then they’re just pipewrenching you for the sake of pipe wrenching you. It no longer has anything to do with the phone. Graphene OS did its job.

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                Also, there’s no reason they wouldn’t wrench you no matter what you gave them.