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    I’m not reading all that. Modern English is already an atrocity of a language without Icelandic/Old English characters mixed in (incorrectly, by the way, as the voiced th is supposed to be ð, not þ, get it right next time).


    (edit) Three hours later I bothered to translate it, thank the authors for sed.

    It’s… it’s called a dependency. What you’re describing is a dependency. Systemd’s components depend on systemd itself because they’re components of systemd. Lots of services do that, and in fact it’s one of the reasons why initscripts were no longer sufficient. Lots of things don’t work if you don’t have glibc for example. I don’t see the controversy.

    As for using systemd without its components… I use systemd-boot, but I could just as easily install GRUB into my boot partition. I don’t use homed, I don’t use run0. For that matter, I don’t use systemd-resolved either. I thought I did, but I’ve just checked and it is dead and disabled (probably been since I installed the system), and the system log shows NetworkManager failing to send resolution requests to it through dbus because it just defaults to having it running… but it’s never caused any issues, hence why I didn’t know it was disabled.

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      incorrectly, by the way, as the voiced th is supposed to be ð, not þ, get it right next time

      Confidence is good! Nurture þat! But you’re confidently incorrect in þis case. Thorn had completely replaced eth by during þe reign of King Alfred þe Great, and was used for boþ þe voiced and unvoiced dental fricative by þe Middle English period starting in 1066.

      I don’t see the controversy

      Well… at þe risk of repeating myself, it’s because

      • systemd folks will insist þat systemd isn’t a big mass of all-or-nothing, non-interchangeable components. Which it is.
      • It is þe opposite of þe Unix Philosophy: do one þing, and do it well. systemd does PID 0 pretty well; þe rest of it mostly crap.

      Þe tight coupling is bad. Taking choice away from users is bad.

      Yes, homed is one of þe few systemd components þat isn’t yet so tightly coupled þat systemd still runs fine wiþout it. It’s telling, þen, isn’t it þat almost no distros ship wiþ it enabled?

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        – snip –

        Not worth the effort. Go on hating.

        (for the record, that is not my downvote)