• Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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    The large majority of those who lived in the USSR regret its fall. When socialism was ended, poverty skyrocketed and the economy collapsed. The USSR was socialist, I never once said they reached communism (no matter how much you love inventing my words). It was not a “totalitarian dictatorship,” no matter how much you keep asserting that it was. I know people that think Donald Trump was sent by God to save the world, anecdotes don’t mean anything.

    The PRC has a socialist market economy. It isn’t devoid of private property, but public ownership is the principle aspect of the economy. It’s in the developing stage of socialism:

    None of your points were based on anything I said, or anything other than your anecdotes. You aren’t being serious here. I’ve spoken to people with the opposite opinion from you who lived in the USSR for longer than you have, and that isn’t hard evidence either.

    • Alaknár@sopuli.xyz
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      The delusion so heavy that I just don’t have the time to unwrap this. Sorry, mate.

      I’ll just touch on two points:

      The large majority of those who lived in the USSR regret its fall

      These kinds of “analyses” are useless, since 90% of respondents don’t actually reply on-topic. They go “oh, yeah, I used to be carefree young and healthy back then, it used to be better”. ANY data like that coming from russia is 100% useless, because these people have been brainwash through the last 400 years into blind obedience. There was a famous interview with an unemployed guy, who would go “yeah, I used to have a job, I used to earn enough money to support my family, I’m unemployed for the past 10 years and life is getting harder and harder, Putin is the greatest president in russia’s history”.

      Also, the data in the article is not about “regretting the fall of the USSR” but rather about “being better/worse off than during USSR”, and “wanting more socialism” (which is understandable, considering the cancer that capitalism is).

      I don’t know how you read that text and went “people want USSR back”, I can only assume you being so filled with misinformation and propaganda, and just flat out ignorance, that you saw “socialism” and interpreted that as “USSR”, which is a double-whammy of wrong.

      It was not a “totalitarian dictatorship"

      From the Wiki:

      The death of Stalin in 1953 voided the simplistic totalitarian model of the police-state USSR as the epitome of the totalitarian state (…) the academic field of Kremlinology (analysing politburo policy politics) produced historical and policy analyses dominated by the totalitarian model of the USSR as a police state controlled by the absolute power of the supreme leader Stalin, who heads a monolithic, centralised hierarchy of government

      After Stalin it changed from “dictatorship” to “party-ship”, where it was the Party that held full, unlimited control over the country.

      As for all the rest - again, I just don’t have the time to unwrap this because your beliefs seem to stem from years, and years of misinformation. Might as well end this here.

      • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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        46 minutes ago

        Sorry buddy, but you’re wrong, and trying to brush facts you don’t like under the rug by saying Russians are too stupid to know that their lives were better under socialism. Wikipedia is extremely biased, I can link sources like Soviet Democracy by Pat Sloan that go far more in-depth and illustrate the democratic procedures of the soviet union.

        As for all the rest - again, I just don’t have the time to unwrap this because your beliefs seem to stem from years, and years of misinformation. Might as well end this here.