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    I’ll let the various communist parties currently in power in countries like the PRC, Vietnam, etc. to distance themselves from the hammer and sickle, as you don’t personally take them seriously.

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            Okay, cool. I’ll continue to organize with groups that uphold existing socialism, rather than throw it under the bus for an easy rhetorical strategy that has always backfired by legitimizing anti-communist narratives.

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                The symbolism used by communist parties around the world, both in power and not, is a symbol of working class internationalism that trancends borders. Any genuine socialist is going to be slandered and drug under the dirt anyways, abandoning the socialist movement around the world just to try to kick that can down the road just a tiny bit means throwing away allies. It’s why the TERF movement is worse for cis feminists, and why trans-inclusionary feminism gains more traction.

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                  Thanks for the response without calling me a racist plantation worshiper. That makes a lot of sense and I didn’t mean to offend anyone, I just know that a lot of people would love socialist policies but that symbolism is linked to something else entirely, I know it’s stupid, it’s not me personally, and it was just a thought to try to further expand socialism’s reach by bringing it into the 21st century. Be well.

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                    One thing I don’t really understand is what you mean by the hammer and sickle representing “something else entirely,” or that you’re “bringing it into thr 21st century.” The hammer and sickle is used by communist parties around the world that are presently in power and building socialism, such as the CPC in the PRC. The h&s is linked to socialism and socialist movements both past and present, that’s why orgs use it as identification with that internationalist movement in the present day.

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                White people were put off by the civil rights movement. We don’t have the choice to abandon things based on popularity. Plus the symbols are cool.

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            China’s socialist market economy, unlike FDR’s New Deal, is commanded by public ownership as the principle aspect of the economy under a proletarian-led and controlled state, unlike FDR’s bourgeois controlled imperialist state. Socialism isn’t simply having safety nets, it’s a mode of production.

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              Totally, totally. Those are the nets I think of when i think of their production. Very proletarian led, that’s why they need all the cops and censorship.

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                The worker’s state needs worker’s cops and worker’s censorship. Crime and cia outlets don’t magically disappear in a worker’s state.

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                Those are the nets I think of when i think of their production.

                It’s weird how liberals will insist “one county, two systems” is a fiction, then point to a glaring example of Hong Kong labor policy and blame Beijing.

                Nevermind the fact that you’re describing Foxcon, a Taiwanese company focused on manufacturing for American and Japanese electronics distributed into Western markets.

                That’s the evil Chinese Communism you’re complaining about. No word on when Americans plan to sanction Foxcon for these abhorrent labor practices.

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                Over 90% of the Chinese citizenry support their system, and the vast majority believe it to be democratic, more confidence than westerners have in their system. Having police and censoring the speech of capitalists is important for upholding the socialist project, especially in its early stages as it is in China.

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              Honestly, anyone could help Texas. I just met a homeless guy who refused to leave his tent and wore an honest to fuvk tinfoil hat.

              His administration could do a lot for Texas. I’ll accuse the dengists of a lot, but, uh… Anything would be a step up from Texas. Give the fuckers a Hapsburg and they’ll do better than they are right now.

              I say give xi a chance.

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                Give the fuckers a Hapsburg and they’ll do better

                I suspect if you dug around in the lineage of Texas state leadership you’d find a few Hapsburgs. At the very least, you’ll find plenty of 1940s German refugees.