They spoiled everything. They show Rocky, hell even showing that he meets an alien should of been held back. But the biggest one was the fact that he was a coward who didn’t want to go. That was a huge revival in the novel.
Sick fucking 3 minute trailers that spoil everything. I don’t need to see the movie They already shown me everything. Plus the Martain was not a good movie excellent book. I will stick to reading the books and if really want to be entertained I will listen to the audiobooks.
You’re not going to get anybody to agree to “Trust me bro” on keeping the 8-figure alien VFX out of the marketing. Spoiling Rocky was pretty much a pre-condition to this being done as a big project, and…
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I think you may be close-watching the trailer and adding in your own knowledge of the book. They clearly show he’s reluctant, and the book does the same thing, but the shock of the reveal is that he was so scared he actually said No and they pressed-ganged him. I don’t think the trailer gives that away at all. If anything, I’m worried they’ll leave that element out if it didn’t test well.
I actually think The Martian was better as a movie. I think I’m rare in going that far, but most people seem to think it was a pretty solid adaptation. Weir has improved as a writer, and so PHM has more to work with but it’s playing with a lot of the same techniques, so I’m optimistic this movie will be decent or better.
They clearly felt like they couldn’t even market the movie without revealing one of the major spoilable plot points, and frankly I’m sympathetic, but I’m curious how they’ll handle the other.
I don’t agree about the movie being better, mostly because I think getting Mark’s inner monologue made much of the humor land so much better than the vocalized stuff in the movie. And they had to handwave a bunch of the more technical sciences and engineering that I found genuinely interesting in the book. But it was very cinematic and a pretty solid adaptation.
I expect PHM will have to do some more handwaving on the science, which will be unfortunate, but I also think Ryan can deliver on the humor a bit better than Matt did, so I am anticipating that to work quite well. I feel like Ryan’s personality will be a good foil for both the ultra series nature of the threat and the characters dealing with it and the more out there sci-fi elements in PHM (compared to The Martian).
I don’t agree about the movie being better, mostly because I think getting Mark’s inner monologue made much of the humor land so much better than the vocalized stuff in the movie. And they had to handwave a bunch of the more technical sciences and engineering that I found genuinely interesting in the book. But it was very cinematic and a pretty solid adaptation.
That’s certainly fair, and probably more common among people who’ve gone into both with an open mind. There are certain things that books simply explore better than films, and the more in-depth “Swiss Family Robinson” competence-porn and meditation on isolation did work very well. Someone who wants that particular story with more depth and different pacing can always make a good argument that the book is better," but I do sometimes like to gently push back on the notion that any book is inherently better than its adaptation, not to make you a straw man or anything. :-) Also, for the record I really liked the book a lot.
I thought Damon did a very good job with converting the monologue into video messages and very much caught the spirit of the character. I honestly didn’t miss the rover ride, which dragged and made an already constrained story positively claustrophobic, though the science and geography it showed was obviously core to what Weir wanted to do. I also just had a personal bugaboo where I struggled with the fact that every book character other than Watney was drawn thinner than thin and had clunky dialogue, so I found it a chore to wade through their scenes. The script doctors and professional actors made them much more palatable in the movie.
I think first-time-novelist Andy Weir just didn’t really have more than one character in him at the time, and that character was his “juiced” author-insert. You can see him stretching his literary wings in Artemis but it falls flat in many ways, though that setting could result in a really good project of its own if they tweaked the characterizations some. PHM was nice because it kind of took a more incremental step of giving the author insert more flaws, making genuinely excellent use of his second character, and making the “plot device humans” comfortably deliver exposition and obstacles from the sidelines without being distracting.
The book was soooo good. Easily one of my favorites of all time. I hope the movie doesn’t suck!
I also thought the book was great! Hopefully the movie can capture the vibe of the book.
It sucks, for fucksacts they spoiled all the major events in the book.
I don’t think it does for anybody that hasn’t read the books.
They spoiled everything. They show Rocky, hell even showing that he meets an alien should of been held back. But the biggest one was the fact that he was a coward who didn’t want to go. That was a huge revival in the novel.
Sick fucking 3 minute trailers that spoil everything. I don’t need to see the movie They already shown me everything. Plus the Martain was not a good movie excellent book. I will stick to reading the books and if really want to be entertained I will listen to the audiobooks.
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You’re not going to get anybody to agree to “Trust me bro” on keeping the 8-figure alien VFX out of the marketing. Spoiling Rocky was pretty much a pre-condition to this being done as a big project, and…
spoiler
I actually think The Martian was better as a movie. I think I’m rare in going that far, but most people seem to think it was a pretty solid adaptation. Weir has improved as a writer, and so PHM has more to work with but it’s playing with a lot of the same techniques, so I’m optimistic this movie will be decent or better.
They clearly felt like they couldn’t even market the movie without revealing one of the major spoilable plot points, and frankly I’m sympathetic, but I’m curious how they’ll handle the other.
I don’t agree about the movie being better, mostly because I think getting Mark’s inner monologue made much of the humor land so much better than the vocalized stuff in the movie. And they had to handwave a bunch of the more technical sciences and engineering that I found genuinely interesting in the book. But it was very cinematic and a pretty solid adaptation.
I expect PHM will have to do some more handwaving on the science, which will be unfortunate, but I also think Ryan can deliver on the humor a bit better than Matt did, so I am anticipating that to work quite well. I feel like Ryan’s personality will be a good foil for both the ultra series nature of the threat and the characters dealing with it and the more out there sci-fi elements in PHM (compared to The Martian).
That’s certainly fair, and probably more common among people who’ve gone into both with an open mind. There are certain things that books simply explore better than films, and the more in-depth “Swiss Family Robinson” competence-porn and meditation on isolation did work very well. Someone who wants that particular story with more depth and different pacing can always make a good argument that the book is better," but I do sometimes like to gently push back on the notion that any book is inherently better than its adaptation, not to make you a straw man or anything. :-) Also, for the record I really liked the book a lot.
I thought Damon did a very good job with converting the monologue into video messages and very much caught the spirit of the character. I honestly didn’t miss the rover ride, which dragged and made an already constrained story positively claustrophobic, though the science and geography it showed was obviously core to what Weir wanted to do. I also just had a personal bugaboo where I struggled with the fact that every book character other than Watney was drawn thinner than thin and had clunky dialogue, so I found it a chore to wade through their scenes. The script doctors and professional actors made them much more palatable in the movie.
I think first-time-novelist Andy Weir just didn’t really have more than one character in him at the time, and that character was his “juiced” author-insert. You can see him stretching his literary wings in Artemis but it falls flat in many ways, though that setting could result in a really good project of its own if they tweaked the characterizations some. PHM was nice because it kind of took a more incremental step of giving the author insert more flaws, making genuinely excellent use of his second character, and making the “plot device humans” comfortably deliver exposition and obstacles from the sidelines without being distracting.