where do you stand on the socialist spectrum? i’ll start: my socialist views are a fusion of market socialism, welfarism, georgism and left-libertarianism - i took the leftvalues quiz (as shown in the photo attached in this post), and i got “centrist marxism”. you DON’T have to take the quiz though.

EDIT: i just added the link

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    This one isn’t too bad for an internet political test, though i would said that eco-marxism is pretty misleading since all the notable ML parties are proecological nowadays and in 1910’s that question was much less pressing.

    I did get ML result so lol.

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      Yea, they require you to pick nationalist answers to get ML but the ML stance on nationalism depends on if you’re in the global north or global south, ie does your nationalism work against imperialism or towards perpetuating it. It also requires the person to pick production over ecology.

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        the ML stance on nationalism depends on if you’re in the global north or global south, ie does your nationalism work against imperialism or towards perpetuating it

        Yeah

        I don’t think any actual MLs can get the ML result lol

        This contradicts the sentence above, just look at AES states. I mean nationalism will always be a crutch for socialist states but its an useful crutch at least as long as imperialists are out there.

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          Yes, but the questions are framed in a way that make it seem odd.

          “Nationalism and patriotism are impulses that are unacceptable in socialist society” is phrased in a manner that either means you agree with nationalism within socialism or you don’t, not if they have context. It has nothing to do with your present country, that’s entirely on the user’s interpretation. Someone in the global south and the global north both see the same question the same way, as it doesn’t tie the answer to the north or south. The correct answer is that it’s useful in resisting imperialism and horrible if used to perpetuate it.

          There’s also the fact that it requires you to take a productvist approach over an ecological one, and the way those questions are phrased are bad as well. We should work to increase production in a green manner, not become an anarcho-primitivist, yet the quiz hints like those are the counterposed ideas.

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              Agreed, I always got lib left and back in my non-Marxist days I assumed that meant I was more aligned with anarchists. Thankfully reading theory helped me understand more.