where do you stand on the socialist spectrum? i’ll start: my socialist views are a fusion of market socialism, welfarism, georgism and left-libertarianism - i took the leftvalues quiz (as shown in the photo attached in this post), and i got “centrist marxism”. you DON’T have to take the quiz though.

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    you can say any democratic action is authoritarian then. Its not a given that industries are private or that private property is a thing. This is something agreed on democratically. The first thing a democracy has to do is setup its structure and within that is the method to change the structure.

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      1 hour ago

      The state doesn’t need to exist forever. The enforcement of will of one part onto another is using authority and thus authoritarian, though I don’t think that’s inherently a bad thing.

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        59 minutes ago

        yeah again though that means any action is authoritarian. authoritarian is not about specific actions. Its about action being taken by one or a limited number of folks without input from all individuals. In an ideal type of democracy it would be like the borg and every decision would be decided by a majority of all but realistically you have a republic where representatives are agreed upon to take action. A single president taking action that has been allowed and is legal by majority in creation of the sytem or by their congressional reps and who further assigned the job by a majority in a process agreed to by the majority is democratic. The same action taken by someone who took power by force is authitarian. the action itself is not authoritarian or democratic.

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          46 minutes ago

          Democracy means rule by the majority, though. It sounds more like you’re trying to narrowly define words your own way.

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            31 minutes ago

            I already explained the borg vs republic issue. A republic is still a democracy its just less so on the spectrum from direct democracy. Just like a sole king or more authoritarian than a cabal of olgiarchs.