Let’s face it: The EU is the last remaining democratic global power. Russia is a dictatorship, so is China, and America is only a democracy on paper since they elected Mango Mussolini.
Here’s the dark future that could very well happen if we allowed these right wing fucks to succeed with their plans:
Their first goal: Get a majority of European countries to vote for authoritarian, alt-right, pro Trump, anti EU governments. Russia has been working towards this for decades.
Actually dissolve the EU so Russia, China and America remain as the only relevant global powers.
Authoritarian European nations become hostile towards other nations. As hostile as America is now already.
National particular interests within the EU are cause for dangerous tensions again.
International relations become much more volatile.
Nations suddenly don’t give a fuck about multilateral contracts anymore.
Some weaker, paranoid nations secretly develop nuclear weapons programs.
Radioactive shit is going to hit the fan sooner or later.
GAME OVER.
Only democratic nations working together and people who strongly oppose demagogues and fascism have a chance to prevent that from happening. The EU is a fundamental building block to ensure this for Europe.
Have we not learned from WWII and 60 million deaths? Are humans really so dumb? If that’s really the case, we deserve to go extinct.
I think it is so telling and Euro-brained to say that the European Union, infamously still dependent on slavery and colonialism to function, is not only the only democratic system in the world, but that also any failure to resemble this system is a reflection of the moral impurity inherent to humanity and not an indication of how this system fails to operate in the best interests of humans.
Fucking. Wild. If you want to respond to this, make sure you tell me your favourite decolonial scholars in your comment.
To be fair, the EU is the only democratic alternative since they have enough size, strength and influence to not just resist outside influence, but also to project influence. Latin America is too disunited and the African Union is not at that stage yet to be as influential as the EU. For Asian countries, they are too insular and tribalistic to form their own regional bloc that is strong enough to resist outside influence.
Why would I ever be fair to imperialists? The EU exists because Europeans looted the rest of the world until infighting became a genuinely destructive threat to their ability to continue that way of life. There is no altruistic element in its existence, it is to secure the interests of a capitalist and imperialist system. You are uncritically accepting an imagination of democracy that is built around those interests. Anything that isn’t advantageous to them is “undemocratic.” The enslaved people who they subsist on don’t get a vote, neither do the people who live in the ecosystems European companies pollute.
Hmmmmmm I wonder why it’d be so difficult for people in the global south to organise and assert their best interests. Maybe there’s say, a historical system of oppression that depends on their subordination and disunity to exist HHMMMMMMMMMMMM.
The EU is evil, I do not accept imperialist definitions of progress.
You are so full of shit. Tell me one other power in the world who upholds the agreements that they sign. Be it the decleration of human rights, to the paris agreement, convention on biodiversity, or pollution standards. Tell me how these are beneficial to the capitalist imperialist elites.
Latin America is the unsung hero IMO. They have a “pink tide” since their leaders are mostly moderate leftists. There are exceptions of course such as El Salvador and Argentina (although to my knowledge, Javier Milei is nowhere near in trying to curtail civil liberties and human rights). Latin America had been off US’ radar since the Cold War and they can use that time to build closer relationships amongst each other by strengthening MERCOSUR and military ties.
There is Africa. Again, while there are exceptions, by and large many African nations are doing their best to uphold democratic values. The West African bloc, ECOWAS, had been great in the past ten years to oust African leaders who don’t want to step down. When Brexit happened, the African Union allowed freedom of movement among AU citizens at the same time. I can see AU becoming more united, although it will take more time than we would hope for.
India will become authoritarian I would say in the next couple of generations. The neoliberal policies and flirting with fascism by Modi have sown the seed for full blown far right movement in decades to come as far as I can tell.
For the Far East, they are too insular and have their own stupid, age old inter-racism against each to be more united, and the fragmented geography of Far East Asian countries, that is not China, makes cultural exchange and understanding difficult to create kinship necessary for a more political union. But I think they may stay democratic for the foreseeable future (now, Japan has a little surge of far right, but they are not a threat in the immediate future). Unless there is Asian NATO, the Far Eastern democracies won’t hold against the threat of China. Although again, Asians are too insular and geographically fragmented for closer cooperation.
Your comment is very insightful and I agree with your observations. As a European one tends to focus too much on the places around the world which keep doing things right. Latin America truly is an unsung hero, what with the kind of economical troubles they have been going through. One would think they would be far more susceptible to demagogues and propaganda than nations of the so-called “western hemisphere”.
“We” didn’t learn. As evidenced by this all happening the instant the last people who experienced WWII directly started to fade from the discussion. They couldn’t even wait for all if them to be dead before restarting.
Let’s face it: The EU is the last remaining democratic global power. Russia is a dictatorship, so is China, and America is only a democracy on paper since they elected Mango Mussolini.
Here’s the dark future that could very well happen if we allowed these right wing fucks to succeed with their plans:
Only democratic nations working together and people who strongly oppose demagogues and fascism have a chance to prevent that from happening. The EU is a fundamental building block to ensure this for Europe.
Have we not learned from WWII and 60 million deaths? Are humans really so dumb? If that’s really the case, we deserve to go extinct.
You can’t call it Democratic when entire political views are blocked from speech. The EU is a train wreck and I don’t plan on ever returning again.
Is that political view national socialism by chance?
I think it is so telling and Euro-brained to say that the European Union, infamously still dependent on slavery and colonialism to function, is not only the only democratic system in the world, but that also any failure to resemble this system is a reflection of the moral impurity inherent to humanity and not an indication of how this system fails to operate in the best interests of humans.
Fucking. Wild. If you want to respond to this, make sure you tell me your favourite decolonial scholars in your comment.
To be fair, the EU is the only democratic alternative since they have enough size, strength and influence to not just resist outside influence, but also to project influence. Latin America is too disunited and the African Union is not at that stage yet to be as influential as the EU. For Asian countries, they are too insular and tribalistic to form their own regional bloc that is strong enough to resist outside influence.
Why would I ever be fair to imperialists? The EU exists because Europeans looted the rest of the world until infighting became a genuinely destructive threat to their ability to continue that way of life. There is no altruistic element in its existence, it is to secure the interests of a capitalist and imperialist system. You are uncritically accepting an imagination of democracy that is built around those interests. Anything that isn’t advantageous to them is “undemocratic.” The enslaved people who they subsist on don’t get a vote, neither do the people who live in the ecosystems European companies pollute.
Hmmmmmm I wonder why it’d be so difficult for people in the global south to organise and assert their best interests. Maybe there’s say, a historical system of oppression that depends on their subordination and disunity to exist HHMMMMMMMMMMMM.
The EU is evil, I do not accept imperialist definitions of progress.
You are so full of shit. Tell me one other power in the world who upholds the agreements that they sign. Be it the decleration of human rights, to the paris agreement, convention on biodiversity, or pollution standards. Tell me how these are beneficial to the capitalist imperialist elites.
Are you in the EU or from the global south?
Latin America is the unsung hero IMO. They have a “pink tide” since their leaders are mostly moderate leftists. There are exceptions of course such as El Salvador and Argentina (although to my knowledge, Javier Milei is nowhere near in trying to curtail civil liberties and human rights). Latin America had been off US’ radar since the Cold War and they can use that time to build closer relationships amongst each other by strengthening MERCOSUR and military ties.
There is Africa. Again, while there are exceptions, by and large many African nations are doing their best to uphold democratic values. The West African bloc, ECOWAS, had been great in the past ten years to oust African leaders who don’t want to step down. When Brexit happened, the African Union allowed freedom of movement among AU citizens at the same time. I can see AU becoming more united, although it will take more time than we would hope for.
India will become authoritarian I would say in the next couple of generations. The neoliberal policies and flirting with fascism by Modi have sown the seed for full blown far right movement in decades to come as far as I can tell.
For the Far East, they are too insular and have their own stupid, age old inter-racism against each to be more united, and the fragmented geography of Far East Asian countries, that is not China, makes cultural exchange and understanding difficult to create kinship necessary for a more political union. But I think they may stay democratic for the foreseeable future (now, Japan has a little surge of far right, but they are not a threat in the immediate future). Unless there is Asian NATO, the Far Eastern democracies won’t hold against the threat of China. Although again, Asians are too insular and geographically fragmented for closer cooperation.
Your comment is very insightful and I agree with your observations. As a European one tends to focus too much on the places around the world which keep doing things right. Latin America truly is an unsung hero, what with the kind of economical troubles they have been going through. One would think they would be far more susceptible to demagogues and propaganda than nations of the so-called “western hemisphere”.
“We” didn’t learn. As evidenced by this all happening the instant the last people who experienced WWII directly started to fade from the discussion. They couldn’t even wait for all if them to be dead before restarting.
To answer your question in chronological order.
No. Yes, even more than you can expect. Indeed.
But ypu gave a great comment tho, thank you for that.