• hayvan@piefed.world
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    22 hours ago

    You are contradicting yourself. If writing bullshit and making things worse gets you a better career position

    You want a promotion? Make something cool, improve something while using approaches that will show that you deserve a higher position and, therefore, a bigger salary

    Is not the rule of the game. Sell your story to your superiors is the rule of the game, that’s the real metric, the the thing that really matters.

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      20 hours ago

      Some people will do anything to justify scumbag behavior. How about instead of trying to define what a player and a game are we just say “this guy is clearly a scumbag, he should be sued”.

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      22 hours ago

      You are contradicting yourself.

      Do you want me to present you with a definition of “lie”? I believe you don’t understand the phrase “Lies and creates shit”.

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        21 hours ago

        They built something worse and we’re still promoted for it despite it being demonstrably worse. Where’s the lie? They described something complex and techy sounding, did it, and got the promotion anyway regardless of the actual results, proving the results didn’t matter.

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          21 hours ago

          So you want the manager to be cleverer than the engineer in engineering, so the manager would be able to detect a deliberate lie from the engineer?

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              You expect a manager to be more competent in engineering than an engineer? You expect the manager to always expect a lie from an engineer and recheck any data received from the engineer?

              Well, we have very different ideas about how engineers and managers work.

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                Technical managers exist. Yes, it’s a manager’s responsibility to understand the field he’s working in. He doesn’t need to be a more skilled engineer, but he needs to understand what his/her people are saying.

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                  but he needs to understand what his/her people are saying.

                  It isn’t enough to detect deliberate lies from an engineer like in this case.

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                    There are ways to know. Did the manager ask for proof of concept? Asked for performance tests of the update and compared it to existing/baseline?

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            I’d expect a manager to be able to determine that testing data for the new process is showing it is worse than the previous system it replaced, and NOT promote that person, at the very least …