You said $115 is on the pricier side and linked to promotional offers to show that a cheaper option exists in some contexts.
Actual statistics on what people pay show that it’s basically average, so calling it pricy isn’t correct.
As for subsidization, you’re missing my point: we don’t really have the programs you referenced in the way they existed last year anymore. “Our Internet isn’t that expensive because you can go on food stamps” is both an odd claim and also increasingly untrue as they try to end those programs.
If you’re addressing the average range of Internet and phone costs, then $115 is not on the pricier side.
That you can bring your bill down by pestering the company into lowering it every few months or repeatedly transferring the plan between different people also isn’t an indicator that it’s not as bad as people think.
the average, non-promotional rate of $60 is still cheaper than what this post implies.
Did you know that if your Internet bill is $60, and your phone bill is $55, that you now have monthly costs for phone and Internet of … $115?
You said $115 is on the pricier side and linked to promotional offers to show that a cheaper option exists in some contexts.
I’ve said this three times now. $40 for Internet was not a promotional rate.
Please read the terms and conditions you yourself shared. You’ll notice they mention internet AND a voice line.
So yes, $40 for both is a promotional rate.
But $40/month for the Internet is their standard rate. You can confirm this by scrolling down to their to table for renewal prices. 3 month renewal is $50/month, 6 month is $45/month, and 1 year is $40/month. If you want things to be crystal clear, keep scrolling to the broadband facts section. You’ll see that $40/month for the 3 month stint is an introductory price. But $45 for 6 month and $40 for the 1 year plan very explicitly states it’s not an introductory price.
I don’t think we can proceed until we agree on this.
Did you know that if your Internet bill is $60, and your phone bill is $55, that you now have monthly costs for phone and Internet of … $115?
I linked 3 separate MVNOs across multiple carriers with nationwide coverage that have unlimited plans at $30.
If you’re paying a $55 phone bill it’s your choice to do so, there are far more affordable options. We’re not scrimping here either, these are unlimited plans. If you did want to save, you can get even cheaper capped plans.
You’re getting really hung up on mints pricing and ignoring the main thrust of what’s being said: the average price is significantly higher than the low tier your referenced. Mobile hotspot Internet is not an even comparison to most other broadband options.
Repeatedly stating their price doesn’t change that it’s not reflective of the actual average prices people are charged for Internet and cell service in the US, and that $115 isn’t “on the pricier side”.
Do you think the majority of the people in the country are looking at their diverse options of equal and viable options for cellular and Internet service and then picking things that are more expensive for no reason?
I’m getting hung up on it because you opened with copy/pasting all of the terms and conditions, and vaguely hand waivey implied that meant I was relying on a promotional rate to make my point. I stated it wasn’t a promotional rate multiple times, but nothing seemed to stick. Now that I hopefully made it crystal clear, you’re just redirecting.
To be frank, I have better things to do than to get into an internet argument with someone who refuses to acknowledge if they were wrong. Behavior like that, coupled with petty things like down voting all replies suggests someone doesn’t actually want to have a conversation, but instead just wants to megaphone their opinions. Which category do you want to be in? Because if it’s the latter, once again, it’s not worth my time. If it’s the former, we can talk about the nuances between average prices of offered plans vs average prices paid by consumers.
I may as well call you fixating on the promotional pricing nit a redirection from you being unable to admit you were wrong about what the average cost of cellular and Internet in the US is.
If we’re being crystal clear, you also called it a promotion, their website called it a promotion and made it explicit that they were discounting the Internet plan and that the introductory rate expired.
Yes, their promotion is to discount their introductory rate by the cost of a phone line when you sign up for a phone line too.
It still has no bearing on what typical Internet prices are, which was what the person was asking in the first place.
You said $115 is on the pricier side and linked to promotional offers to show that a cheaper option exists in some contexts.
Actual statistics on what people pay show that it’s basically average, so calling it pricy isn’t correct.
As for subsidization, you’re missing my point: we don’t really have the programs you referenced in the way they existed last year anymore. “Our Internet isn’t that expensive because you can go on food stamps” is both an odd claim and also increasingly untrue as they try to end those programs.
If you’re addressing the average range of Internet and phone costs, then $115 is not on the pricier side.
That you can bring your bill down by pestering the company into lowering it every few months or repeatedly transferring the plan between different people also isn’t an indicator that it’s not as bad as people think.
Did you know that if your Internet bill is $60, and your phone bill is $55, that you now have monthly costs for phone and Internet of … $115?
I’ve said this three times now. $40 for Internet was not a promotional rate.
Please read the terms and conditions you yourself shared. You’ll notice they mention internet AND a voice line.
So yes, $40 for both is a promotional rate.
But $40/month for the Internet is their standard rate. You can confirm this by scrolling down to their to table for renewal prices. 3 month renewal is $50/month, 6 month is $45/month, and 1 year is $40/month. If you want things to be crystal clear, keep scrolling to the broadband facts section. You’ll see that $40/month for the 3 month stint is an introductory price. But $45 for 6 month and $40 for the 1 year plan very explicitly states it’s not an introductory price.
I don’t think we can proceed until we agree on this.
I linked 3 separate MVNOs across multiple carriers with nationwide coverage that have unlimited plans at $30.
If you’re paying a $55 phone bill it’s your choice to do so, there are far more affordable options. We’re not scrimping here either, these are unlimited plans. If you did want to save, you can get even cheaper capped plans.
You’re getting really hung up on mints pricing and ignoring the main thrust of what’s being said: the average price is significantly higher than the low tier your referenced. Mobile hotspot Internet is not an even comparison to most other broadband options.
Repeatedly stating their price doesn’t change that it’s not reflective of the actual average prices people are charged for Internet and cell service in the US, and that $115 isn’t “on the pricier side”.
Do you think the majority of the people in the country are looking at their diverse options of equal and viable options for cellular and Internet service and then picking things that are more expensive for no reason?
I’m getting hung up on it because you opened with copy/pasting all of the terms and conditions, and vaguely hand waivey implied that meant I was relying on a promotional rate to make my point. I stated it wasn’t a promotional rate multiple times, but nothing seemed to stick. Now that I hopefully made it crystal clear, you’re just redirecting.
To be frank, I have better things to do than to get into an internet argument with someone who refuses to acknowledge if they were wrong. Behavior like that, coupled with petty things like down voting all replies suggests someone doesn’t actually want to have a conversation, but instead just wants to megaphone their opinions. Which category do you want to be in? Because if it’s the latter, once again, it’s not worth my time. If it’s the former, we can talk about the nuances between average prices of offered plans vs average prices paid by consumers.
EDIT: fwiw, I do agree with you on averages.
For Pete’s sake, it’s not a redirection to say something I’ve been saying the entire time:
I may as well call you fixating on the promotional pricing nit a redirection from you being unable to admit you were wrong about what the average cost of cellular and Internet in the US is.
If we’re being crystal clear, you also called it a promotion, their website called it a promotion and made it explicit that they were discounting the Internet plan and that the introductory rate expired.
Yes, their promotion is to discount their introductory rate by the cost of a phone line when you sign up for a phone line too.
It still has no bearing on what typical Internet prices are, which was what the person was asking in the first place.