• Makeitstop@lemmy.world
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    Whether or not a behavior is found among other animals is an absolutely terrible measure of how acceptable it should be among humans. Nature is not moral, and a lot of the time it’s fucking horrific.

    By this logic, Cannibalism, including the killing and eating of your own children, is natural and therefore ok. But no other animal has a concept of due process and legal rights, so those would be unnatural, and therefore bad.

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      No, but it should certainly cause any self-aware “it’s not natural” Bible thumping homophobes to shut the fuck up.

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      I concur, sex in nature is sometimes a dominance, boredom, or mostly straight up rape. There are situations where a chimp used a frogs mouth to masturbate with and accounts of dolphins humping fish and people. These two are the height of intelligence in the animal kingdom and they are still messed up.

      The first statement of the meme is dumb. The response equates homosexuality to just fucking. Which in reality is much more complex in humans and includes love and relationships. For animals it’s mostly simple primal urges to hump something for self gratification.

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        There have absolutely been dolphins with problematic human fetishes though. Documented. Under extremely fucked up lab conditions. Just because its cross species doesn’t mean its masturbation instead of sex.

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      Yes, and cancer is natural. I agree its not how we should be justifying our right to exist. We should be putting Chris to fascist heads on spikes, but I do not get laid when I suggest that.

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      By this logic, Cannibalism, including the killing and eating of your own children, is natural and therefore ok.

      Libertarians cheering unironically