• Makeitstop@lemmy.world
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    Whether or not a behavior is found among other animals is an absolutely terrible measure of how acceptable it should be among humans. Nature is not moral, and a lot of the time it’s fucking horrific.

    By this logic, Cannibalism, including the killing and eating of your own children, is natural and therefore ok. But no other animal has a concept of due process and legal rights, so those would be unnatural, and therefore bad.

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      No, but it should certainly cause any self-aware “it’s not natural” Bible thumping homophobes to shut the fuck up.

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      I concur, sex in nature is sometimes a dominance, boredom, or mostly straight up rape. There are situations where a chimp used a frogs mouth to masturbate with and accounts of dolphins humping fish and people. These two are the height of intelligence in the animal kingdom and they are still messed up.

      The first statement of the meme is dumb. The response equates homosexuality to just fucking. Which in reality is much more complex in humans and includes love and relationships. For animals it’s mostly simple primal urges to hump something for self gratification.

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        There have absolutely been dolphins with problematic human fetishes though. Documented. Under extremely fucked up lab conditions. Just because its cross species doesn’t mean its masturbation instead of sex.

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      Yes, and cancer is natural. I agree its not how we should be justifying our right to exist. We should be putting Chris to fascist heads on spikes, but I do not get laid when I suggest that.

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      By this logic, Cannibalism, including the killing and eating of your own children, is natural and therefore ok.

      Libertarians cheering unironically

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        OR, the claim is absurd on its face. Tell me with a straight face that we have observed homosexual behavior in every sexually reproducing animal. That’s the claim, “no species has been found”, and he’s obviously including “lower” orders of life since he brought up insects and echinoids.

        There are animals for who we have no clue as to their mating habits and have never observed them. There are even more where we’ve barely observed sexual behavior at all.

        Now if they said something like, “in almost every mammal and avian species”, that would be a lot more believable. I still wouldn’t believe that we’ve observed homosexual behavior in all 6,800 mammal species, but it’s a fair assumption it exists.

        It’s also silly to act like this is a slam dunk on homophobes. They won’t ever hear this, and if they do, they’ll dismiss it as “the woke agenda”, and containing an obvious lie helps that dismissal. These posts exist for you and I to pat ourselves on the back over how much smarter we are.

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        Or someone does make a legit critique and you just go off the wall assuming they are cowards and are making a direct insult to you.

        Maybe if you take everything as an insult when it’s not, you’re creating issues. It’s hard to engage and have a discussion when people like you exist and derail stuff because you think they’re insulting you, when they aren’t.

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      Literally not funny, TBf. And widely known.

      Apple fall down. Guys. Sell that stock!

      *Well for most species. A species that was observed only for a couple of times/is extinct se obviously do not know.

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        Memes don’t have to be funny, you scroll past countless unfunny posts without downvoting them, you’re just asshurt about gays existing

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          Some people would like to remove strawmen from their content. If you have people like this on your life you remove them, too.

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      Well, I think they reproduce asexually, so do not fuck and if they did there wouldn’t he genders involved.

      Or are sea urchins the one that basically spray genetic material out like wind pollinated plants? I guess in that case it would always be gay and always be bukake.

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      What are you talking about? Look up Althea Reinhardt, the picture is from a training match during which she got injured in December '24

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          It is always astounding watching people like yourself and @plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works so confidently claim that they cannot possibly be the same person due to a piece of fabric.

          They’re the same person.

          Althea Reinhardt in the top jersey.

          Althea Reinhardt in the bottom jersey in a news story talking about her being hit in the face with a ball.

          You can not like the meme all you want but you straight up do not have that as an excuse.

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            I didn’t. I just pointed out what is weird about the image. It isn’t even that weird.

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            It’s funny you think that’s what the issue is. Maybe read the context…?

            The person who made the meme, couldn’t even be arsed to make sure they are consistent from one sentence to the next.

            You’ve lost the plot if it’s not consistent. Of course it’s the same person, but it makes no sense to use images with two different contexts to make your point. It loses all flow and continuity.

            The meme just fucking sucks dude. It’s sad this had to be explained multiple times in detail, to now multiple people.

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              You literally started this entire comment chain because of your claim that they’re not the same person.

              It’s funny you think that’s what the issue is

              Then you need to be more clear in saying what it is.

              Couldn’t even be arsed to make sure they aren consistent from one sentence to the next.

              Oh, inconsistencies in grammar is something we can use to ignore someone, is it?

              Edit: I was responding to the comment you initially made, not the edit you made after initially posting.


              You should probably just stop and leave this comment chain. I’ve already had to remove several of your comments for violating the first rule. I do not want to ban anyone. Same with someone else you were talking to who I am also giving the same warning to.

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                Yes… pointing out why you shouldn’t use two different contexts…. Everyone else got the point, yet you need it explained in detail, even after seeing other comments that explains that…?

                Oh no, ban me for pointing out that someone is a troll!! Whatever will I do.

                I had one comment asking if they were dropped on their head after reporting multiple of their comments that were direct insults instead of addressing the context.

                Shit mod gonna mod shitty.

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                  Once again, your initial point were they were not the same person. I was responding to that point.

                  I am not warning that I am going to ban you for pointing out someone is a troll. I am warning you that I am going to ban you if you keep down the blatantly insulting route that you’ve taken with other people. This is visible for anyone to see on your modlog. Either learn to communicate in a respectful way or leave this community.

                  And yes. You did report other comments. Comments that were removed. Two wrongs do not make a right. You do not get a pass to do the same thing you are reporting others for doing. Shape up or ship out. I’m not continuing this conversation with you. Goodbye.