On the surface it seems analogous, but it really isn’t. White people don’t have uniquely bad experiences with black people that they don’t also have with other white people, and that black people don’t also have with other black people. This isn’t true of men and women. Nearly every woman has a story of that time a man wouldnt leave her alone and started threatening her. Some men have that kind of experience with a woman, and very very few people have that kind of experience with some of the same sex
So if white people mostly had bad experiences with black people and usually not with other white people, do you think it would be OK to say derogatory things about black people as a group? Merely based on the color of their skin?
I could put in the effort to write a while paragraph I response to this, but we’re deep enough in this thread that nobody else is likely to ever see it, and I know you aren’t smart enough to change your opinion on things when given good reason to. I’ll just leave it at this: nobody in this comic or comments section is saying derogatory things about men as a group based solely on their sex
Oh what the hell, I’ll write a proper response before I block you
If black people were almost universally taller, stronger, and faster than white people, and virtually every single white person had had experiences being threatened by a black person in a way that they’d never been threatened by another white person, and in a way that the vast majority of black people had never been threatened by a white person, and in a way that the vast majority of black people had never been threatened by another black person, then it would make sense for white people to exercise extra caution around black people that they’d never met. It still wouldn’t be okay to say derogatory things about black people as a group merely based on the color of their skin.
It’s a good thing nobody is making derogatory statements about men based solely on their sex here.
It’s a good thing nobody is making derogatory statements about men based solely on their sex here.
I understand that it hasn’t been clearly spelled out and that we have different contexts, but the top of this comment thread started with someone saying “I wish I can go a day without hating myself for being a man.” What I read into that is a complaint and feeling of resignation about the fact that we do get to hear, every day, about how men are horrible - in the general sense without any further qualification than their sex alone.
So we’re talking about different things. I’m not saying people were making derogatory statements in this specific thread. But it’s a problem in society at large and it’s affecting young boys in a way that’s bad for everyone, particularly women.
On the surface it seems analogous, but it really isn’t. White people don’t have uniquely bad experiences with black people that they don’t also have with other white people, and that black people don’t also have with other black people. This isn’t true of men and women. Nearly every woman has a story of that time a man wouldnt leave her alone and started threatening her. Some men have that kind of experience with a woman, and very very few people have that kind of experience with some of the same sex
So if white people mostly had bad experiences with black people and usually not with other white people, do you think it would be OK to say derogatory things about black people as a group? Merely based on the color of their skin?
I could put in the effort to write a while paragraph I response to this, but we’re deep enough in this thread that nobody else is likely to ever see it, and I know you aren’t smart enough to change your opinion on things when given good reason to. I’ll just leave it at this: nobody in this comic or comments section is saying derogatory things about men as a group based solely on their sexOh what the hell, I’ll write a proper response before I block you
If black people were almost universally taller, stronger, and faster than white people, and virtually every single white person had had experiences being threatened by a black person in a way that they’d never been threatened by another white person, and in a way that the vast majority of black people had never been threatened by a white person, and in a way that the vast majority of black people had never been threatened by another black person, then it would make sense for white people to exercise extra caution around black people that they’d never met. It still wouldn’t be okay to say derogatory things about black people as a group merely based on the color of their skin.
It’s a good thing nobody is making derogatory statements about men based solely on their sex here.
I understand that it hasn’t been clearly spelled out and that we have different contexts, but the top of this comment thread started with someone saying “I wish I can go a day without hating myself for being a man.” What I read into that is a complaint and feeling of resignation about the fact that we do get to hear, every day, about how men are horrible - in the general sense without any further qualification than their sex alone.
So we’re talking about different things. I’m not saying people were making derogatory statements in this specific thread. But it’s a problem in society at large and it’s affecting young boys in a way that’s bad for everyone, particularly women.