• theneverfox@pawb.social
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    1 day ago

    And even then, it’ll need to be commerically viable to compete with the West.

    Well, unless they invaded Taiwan…

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      If Taiwan gets invaded they’ll just blow their chip fabs, they’ve said as much multiple times and presumably have a plan in place to do it at a moment’s notice. If that’s what China is after I don’t know that an invasion is going to work even if they succeed. It could deny future chip production to other countries though.

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        23 hours ago

        they’ll just blow their chip fabs

        The US has said they will blow them up “for them”. TSMC is supportive of US puppetted militarist fascism in Taiwan, but has backfired a bit from Trump. Tarriffs on Taiwan, and more restrictions on Chinese operations. TSMC definitely wants to avoid war even if it likes politicians that hype up weapons gifts, but also independently subsidizes it.

        War is going to depend on US dictated decoupling, that black market can’t get around. The fascists will have a hard time trusting US backing for the island, as Trump has been softer on China than Taiwan so far this year.

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        1 day ago

        Yeah, that’s what I mean

        Doesn’t matter if China’s chips are economically viable if they’re the only ones making advanced chips…

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          I mean, it kinda still does, but even if they did eventually invade, it wouldn’t necessarily make China the only game in town.

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            55 minutes ago

            Arizona has chip fabs coming on line, (damn Joe Biden!) but construction of a fab and actually making chips at scale are two very different challenges.

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            24 hours ago

            China seems to be closest though, if they reach viable modern CPUs first…

            But realistically, I think China made a deal with the West to hold off on Taiwan until we have at least one modern chip fab working in the US and Europe