JFC, people were having kids during the bubonic plague, Chinese revolts that killed millions and through two world wars. People are having kids in Ukraine and Palestine, right now.
JFC, people were having kids during the bubonic plague, Chinese revolts that killed millions and through two world wars. People are having kids in Ukraine and Palestine, right now.
“No! The world is too harsh!”
Difference being in those examples a lack of choice. The advent of modern birth control and reliable medical care which war-torn countries lack has changed the game. When you cite populations that feared absolute collapse there is a added social swell of responsibility that isn’t present in places where there is reasonable security. We are in a period where in the US due to legislation post fall of Roe V Wade the mortality rate of pregnant people is worse than for front line police. If you are a person of color this rate jumps to being higher than the mortality rate of US soldiers. We are currently in a situation where having children is a form of enlistment rather than concription and thus people are making their choices based on personal values and how willing they are to assume growing personal risk.
80 years ago a single income did the trick but endless generations of women who allowed themselves to be homemakers have discovered that their financial security and the security of their offspring was dependent on something as fickle as their working partner’s affections. In a world where a gap in a resume is a cardinal sin it means the fallout for something they had no control over is often working low paying low weekly hour jobs. The dual income household is the norm. People who are struggling now see the added cost, work, pain, health risk and struggle and that means unless you absolutely want kids the cost in time, effort and money has a higher bar to clear. Since there are available practical means of having sexuallity which is lowkey a requirement of a lot of romantic relationships without it being reproductive it is an elective decision. The US is trying to take those choices away or force people to keep children they don’t want which has meant the response has become political. People cite political reasons : climate change, economic, environmental impacts, social deficit, lack of support in part because they are effectively protesting severe top down austerity and anti-long term public welfare attitudes.
When there is growing pressure from natalists the backlash grows and these become hard lines in the sand.
Up until the early 2000s, it really did look like the future would be better. Sure, wages have been stagnant since the 80s, but it really looked like with a lot of smarts and a little luck, you could land a great job and be set.
It’s not just the money, it’s also the low value of human life and knowing the world just wants more bodies for the
meetmeat grinder.Society had always been optimistic about the long term future until recently.
JFC, people were having kids during the bubonic plague, Chinese revolts that killed millions and through two world wars. People are having kids in Ukraine and Palestine, right now.
“No! The world is too harsh!”
“No! The world is too harsh!”
Difference being in those examples a lack of choice. The advent of modern birth control and reliable medical care which war-torn countries lack has changed the game. When you cite populations that feared absolute collapse there is a added social swell of responsibility that isn’t present in places where there is reasonable security. We are in a period where in the US due to legislation post fall of Roe V Wade the mortality rate of pregnant people is worse than for front line police. If you are a person of color this rate jumps to being higher than the mortality rate of US soldiers. We are currently in a situation where having children is a form of enlistment rather than concription and thus people are making their choices based on personal values and how willing they are to assume growing personal risk.
80 years ago a single income did the trick but endless generations of women who allowed themselves to be homemakers have discovered that their financial security and the security of their offspring was dependent on something as fickle as their working partner’s affections. In a world where a gap in a resume is a cardinal sin it means the fallout for something they had no control over is often working low paying low weekly hour jobs. The dual income household is the norm. People who are struggling now see the added cost, work, pain, health risk and struggle and that means unless you absolutely want kids the cost in time, effort and money has a higher bar to clear. Since there are available practical means of having sexuallity which is lowkey a requirement of a lot of romantic relationships without it being reproductive it is an elective decision. The US is trying to take those choices away or force people to keep children they don’t want which has meant the response has become political. People cite political reasons : climate change, economic, environmental impacts, social deficit, lack of support in part because they are effectively protesting severe top down austerity and anti-long term public welfare attitudes.
When there is growing pressure from natalists the backlash grows and these become hard lines in the sand.
Up until the early 2000s, it really did look like the future would be better. Sure, wages have been stagnant since the 80s, but it really looked like with a lot of smarts and a little luck, you could land a great job and be set.
And then job security quietly went away as well.
Corporate “persons” on the other hand are thriving.
You get more of what Congress, and states subsidize through tax breaks.
“meat grinder”.
is a different thing.
Notably distinct from Grindr meat
Meet Grindr meat!