But why are they and their friends being attacked? Are those attacking them doing it because they just don’t like them or because they are being told to by a state?
10 million reasons for one person to kill another maybe, but 10 million reasons for hundreds of thousands of people to fight each other with billions of dollars of weapons that aren’t created by states? I don’t think so, but if you know one please tell me. If you’re asking if I think there wouldn’t be any violence at all in communist or similar society, then no I don’t, but I think none at this scale
Well, I believe a stateless society would be capable of anything and more that a state would be. Why wouldn’t a stateless society be capable of creating unfathomably devastating weapons?
And wheres the line between the individual and the state? Maybe my family and I build weapons and wage war? Or my community, or a group of like-minded folks I met online. If you understand it for individuals, why not 50 people? 500? 50000? What is a state
I didn’t mean a stateless society wouldn’t be able to make devastating weapon’s, I’m saying it’s unlikely to do so. A state is monopoly on violence. That means that the decision to comit violent acts (war) isn’t made directly by those performing the violence but by the state. The difference between an individual and a group is that most reasons for killing someone can’t be scaled. Someone killed your mother? I could see you killing them. I can’t see a group 50.000 people killing 50.000 mother’s and then waging war against 50.000 people without mothers. This becomes more unlikely the larger the scale and the smaller the scale the easier a society could prevent such escalation
And what if the stateless society over there has the natural resources we need?
And I mean, you’ve basically just described feudalism. If you kill my mom and I kill yours back. And then your brother kills 2 mom’s from your village back, you end up eventually killing 50,000 moms
Do you honestly think people wouldn’t fight to defend their country if not for capitalism?
I think people wouldn’t fight over countries if there weren’t any states
Ok, fine, but do you think people wouldn’t fight to protect themselves and their friends?
But why are they and their friends being attacked? Are those attacking them doing it because they just don’t like them or because they are being told to by a state?
Who cares why, there’s 10 million reasons why.
10 million reasons for one person to kill another maybe, but 10 million reasons for hundreds of thousands of people to fight each other with billions of dollars of weapons that aren’t created by states? I don’t think so, but if you know one please tell me. If you’re asking if I think there wouldn’t be any violence at all in communist or similar society, then no I don’t, but I think none at this scale
Well, I believe a stateless society would be capable of anything and more that a state would be. Why wouldn’t a stateless society be capable of creating unfathomably devastating weapons?
And wheres the line between the individual and the state? Maybe my family and I build weapons and wage war? Or my community, or a group of like-minded folks I met online. If you understand it for individuals, why not 50 people? 500? 50000? What is a state
I didn’t mean a stateless society wouldn’t be able to make devastating weapon’s, I’m saying it’s unlikely to do so. A state is monopoly on violence. That means that the decision to comit violent acts (war) isn’t made directly by those performing the violence but by the state. The difference between an individual and a group is that most reasons for killing someone can’t be scaled. Someone killed your mother? I could see you killing them. I can’t see a group 50.000 people killing 50.000 mother’s and then waging war against 50.000 people without mothers. This becomes more unlikely the larger the scale and the smaller the scale the easier a society could prevent such escalation
And what if the stateless society over there has the natural resources we need?
And I mean, you’ve basically just described feudalism. If you kill my mom and I kill yours back. And then your brother kills 2 mom’s from your village back, you end up eventually killing 50,000 moms
Ok John Lennon