It does not work that way. AMD is mostly in the customised hardware business (PlayStation, Steamdeck, etc.) and they are just selling knockoff products in the GPU space because they just make some money on the side. You may hate Nvidia for the VRAM gimping, trash drivers, bad vision for computer graphics, but at least they have a clear and vision, even if that vision is blurry, temporally smeared graphics. Nvidia is actually doing something smart. It basically tells developers “you can save time and money with our stuff” and once everyone uses it, people are forced to buy their GPUs, because everything exclusively runs on CUDA, this happened in the productivity and machine learning spaces. Intel and AMD just follow said vision with the machine learning infestation of computer generated graphics. AMD’s bets were failures in the past. Intel cannot afford risks right now. So no wonder they’re now just doing whatever Nvidia does minus 100€. That’s the problem with computing. Good luck competing with them. That’s also why EU companies like Infineon or STMicroelectronics, NXP Semiconductors just don’t. Because while they have deep pockets, not that deep to force themselves into it. Maybe once the bubble pops and Nvidia goes the way of IBM, maybe then. One can hope.
Doesn’t really work with fancy computer stuff. The supply lines are too long. There are like a dozen factories on earth that can make modern good computer. Less, I think
I just switched from an RTX 3070ti to an RX 9070XT and I stopped getting weird graphics glitches constantly. Nvidia drivers have gotten worse than AMD drivers over the years, even on Windows
Didn’t stop my brother from buying his wife a 5060ti build for sketchup. I suggested he give her his 4070ti and use a 9070xt instead because why buy a garbage card and… nope… nvidia only. I literally said “You could go with amd and just give her the 4070ti” and he literally replied with “fuck no U_U”
Eventually nvidia will make mistakes and probably end up like intel on the consumer side, but I have a coworker I just helped with a build who refused to even consider AMD even after the intel catastrophe, she’s too much of a brand loyalist (not at all a gamer, IT infrastructure worker.)
People have shit on AMD for so long and to be fair for a while AMD really was behind, but it feels like the script has flipped and the people in my circles haven’t realized it. I know the overall consumer market has been going towards amd processors but I just don’t see AMD winning on the graphics front.
Guessing we’ll see AMD keep nvidia grounded on gpu prices to an extent though since AMD doesn’t really have much market share in the AI/ML space but they’ll certainly allow for more price inflation since it inflates their margin.
Their rocm driver stack for computing isn’t as good as CUDA, but they’re closing the gap year after year. Their open GPU drivers on linux are far superior to Nvidia
The is my sentiment exactly. This is a perfect opportunity for China to step in to the market with arm computers. And just at the right time when valve is investing heavily in running windows games in ARM. Unsurprising for American vendors to step on their dicks and shoot themselves on the foot out of sheer arrogance.
Yes, or better yet, RISC-V, it’s within spitting distance of viability, China could push it over the line. Pretty sure Valve would get on board, they’re pretty good at porting proton now. If they can get modern DRAM (e.g. DDR7 or HBM) fab going, to the moon (perhaps literally ;). Likely simpler than CPU for first gen EUV.
It’s on baby, at least in 2028 ITA. (I hope sooner, they’re talking about a HBM graphics card next year elsewhere (likely manufactured at TSMC tho), so they know what to do with it once it works. and given the current situation I expect China to just thrrow money at the project, it’d be a huge win)
Leaves a void for competition fill a need.
Stupid on their part honestly.
It does not work that way. AMD is mostly in the customised hardware business (PlayStation, Steamdeck, etc.) and they are just selling knockoff products in the GPU space because they just make some money on the side. You may hate Nvidia for the VRAM gimping, trash drivers, bad vision for computer graphics, but at least they have a clear and vision, even if that vision is blurry, temporally smeared graphics. Nvidia is actually doing something smart. It basically tells developers “you can save time and money with our stuff” and once everyone uses it, people are forced to buy their GPUs, because everything exclusively runs on CUDA, this happened in the productivity and machine learning spaces. Intel and AMD just follow said vision with the machine learning infestation of computer generated graphics. AMD’s bets were failures in the past. Intel cannot afford risks right now. So no wonder they’re now just doing whatever Nvidia does minus 100€. That’s the problem with computing. Good luck competing with them. That’s also why EU companies like Infineon or STMicroelectronics, NXP Semiconductors just don’t. Because while they have deep pockets, not that deep to force themselves into it. Maybe once the bubble pops and Nvidia goes the way of IBM, maybe then. One can hope.
Doesn’t really work with fancy computer stuff. The supply lines are too long. There are like a dozen factories on earth that can make modern good computer. Less, I think
lol what competition.
I have amd but trying to convince anybody that AMD is just as good is impossible.
That’s exactly my point?!
There is currently none, but now they are opening up a void to allow one in.
I just switched from an RTX 3070ti to an RX 9070XT and I stopped getting weird graphics glitches constantly. Nvidia drivers have gotten worse than AMD drivers over the years, even on Windows
AMD is actually better now considering there’s a very high chance Nvidia is vibe coding their drivers.
I agree.
Didn’t stop my brother from buying his wife a 5060ti build for sketchup. I suggested he give her his 4070ti and use a 9070xt instead because why buy a garbage card and… nope… nvidia only. I literally said “You could go with amd and just give her the 4070ti” and he literally replied with “fuck no U_U”
Eventually nvidia will make mistakes and probably end up like intel on the consumer side, but I have a coworker I just helped with a build who refused to even consider AMD even after the intel catastrophe, she’s too much of a brand loyalist (not at all a gamer, IT infrastructure worker.)
People have shit on AMD for so long and to be fair for a while AMD really was behind, but it feels like the script has flipped and the people in my circles haven’t realized it. I know the overall consumer market has been going towards amd processors but I just don’t see AMD winning on the graphics front.
Guessing we’ll see AMD keep nvidia grounded on gpu prices to an extent though since AMD doesn’t really have much market share in the AI/ML space but they’ll certainly allow for more price inflation since it inflates their margin.
I’m strongly considering selling my 4070 super and picking up a 9070xt. I’m sick to death of NVidia and their garbage. Hope they fucking bankrupt.
Their rocm driver stack for computing isn’t as good as CUDA, but they’re closing the gap year after year. Their open GPU drivers on linux are far superior to Nvidia
The is my sentiment exactly. This is a perfect opportunity for China to step in to the market with arm computers. And just at the right time when valve is investing heavily in running windows games in ARM. Unsurprising for American vendors to step on their dicks and shoot themselves on the foot out of sheer arrogance.
Yes, or better yet, RISC-V, it’s within spitting distance of viability, China could push it over the line. Pretty sure Valve would get on board, they’re pretty good at porting proton now. If they can get modern DRAM (e.g. DDR7 or HBM) fab going, to the moon (perhaps literally ;). Likely simpler than CPU for first gen EUV.
ETA: Ask and ye shall receive, China’s EUV prototype https://www.heise.de/en/news/Report-China-is-said-to-have-a-functioning-EUV-lithography-system-11121936.html
It’s on baby, at least in 2028 ITA. (I hope sooner, they’re talking about a HBM graphics card next year elsewhere (likely manufactured at TSMC tho), so they know what to do with it once it works. and given the current situation I expect China to just thrrow money at the project, it’d be a huge win)
It doesn’t, because there is no excess of parts. Nearly the chips are already going to nvidia.