i think that the future generation who’s raised by ai slop made by clankers would end up supporting a future fascist regime in the us.

how do you think this can be solved?

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    there has been an influx of ai slop on youtube kids, amazon and such. if ai slop continues to be put out at the current rate and more kids in the future gets exposed and more exposed to it, the film “idiocracy” would end up becoming true; an extremely corporate and consumerist society populated by people who think that art made by talented humans is ‘nerdy’ (a lot like how people in the film consider 21st century english as pompous and nerdy).

    worst of all, ai is being used for hatefulness and such - more and more kids are gonna be exposed to ai slop to a point where they’re NOT gonna tell if something is made using ai or NOT, and then they’re gonna ‘learn’ about extreme conservative values through ai. all this is gonna culminate in their adult selves being fooled into supporting corporatism and fascism, and it’s gonna culminate in the more hardline extreme republicans building a fascist regime.

    oh and can you explain why the last 200 years of the us have been fascist, do you think i’m just throwing words together to form a coherent sentence, and do you think i should study socialist/communist theory a bit more? if so, do you have nay short material to study (with cowbee’s method)?

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      I can’t respond to everything right now. But re: 200 years of fascism, check out Aimé Césaire. Here’s an article about some of the ideas

      https://medium.com/@malorynye/the-brutal-friendship-between-colonialism-and-fascism-some-thoughts-from-aimé-césaire-on-9224e90550b5

      Essentially think about fascism, imagine what you think it is, then think about the transatlantic slave trade and the genocide of the people of what we now call the Americas (named after an Italian, by the way) and think about how everyone in this hemisphere speaks a European language…

      You know how we say shit like “without the allies we’d all be speaking German now”? Yeah. Why is everyone speaking one of the 4 colonizer languages in an entire hemisphere and why are hundreds of languages dead or dying here?

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        4 colonizer languages

        i DON’T wanna call you a hypocrite (like the kind of person who says “you said we should improve society, yet you live in it”), but assuming english is among these languages, you’re posting in english. if we CAN’T use these four languages, can we use esperanto (a universal conlang)?

        oh and also, i heard that cowbee’s method on studying socialist/communist theory is simply taking each paragraph and boiling them down in simple layperson’s terms. can i study that article you linked with that method? do you have anything on what you said that i should study with that method?

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          You’ll get no argument from me. I wouldn’t say it’s hypocritical to acknowledge reality. I am a colonizer, I speak one of the colonizers languages. My family brought their language here from Europe. I live on the lands of genocides peoples. I was raised to worship genociders, slavers, rapists, and tyrants as beacons of justice, goodness, and freedom

          I never said we can’t use English. What I am saying is that when we speak of fascism, we talk about how brutal, violent, and totalitarian it is, out to including forcing everyone to speak their language.

          You are asking about the potential for future fascist government in the USA and I am saying the US has been a fascist government since its founding - concentration camps by race, enforced racial hierarchy, enslavement, working slaves to death, profiting off of slaves, stealing children and stripping them of their culture and forcing them to live like us. These are all things the US has done and is doing.

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              what if the us becomes a socialist country during the great depression?

              The US didn’t become a socialist country during the Great Depression, so while there might be value in trying to understand ways people might have worked towards it in that moment, theorizing about how things might be different now if someone had managed to seems pointless.

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                i’m just asking what would the us be like if it becomes a socialist country during the great depression. seriously!

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                    do you think i should study socialist/communist theory a bit more, and if so, do you have anything that you can recommend to me?

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              No, the US is a white supremacist settler colony built on genocide and slavery. Socialism is insufficient for reparations. Reparations would require accepting the self determination of the indigenous nations still present, and the self-determination of the African diaspora in the country, as well as the dissolution of the boundaries between the US and Canada and between many of the states, and many other preconditions for reparations to proceed effectively. Then it would take decades, likely a century, of very difficult work advancing a collaborative strategy for thorough decolonization of the continent.

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                oh and i DON’T wanna be the kind of person who goes “you said that capitalism is bad, yet you’re using products of capitalism” (which if you can ask me i consider as a fallacy), but you live in the us. the first amendment allows for the freedoms of religion, of the press and of speech, and to assemble peacefully and to redress grievances. you’re exercising your right to express yourself and to redress grievances by stating something critical of the us, especially when the us became a country back in the 1770s and such.

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                  I said that. I live in the US. I am a settler colonist. What of it?

                  Yes. Lots of German fascists were allowed to express themselves. You may not realize this but the stories that every single critic was murdered are actually just stories and not true.

                  What was true was that the government spied on everyone they could. Guess that the US has been doing? Spying on every single digital communication for the last 25 years.

                  So, yeah, what are you arguing?

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                    1. you went a long way to godwin’s law - “as an online discussion goes on, it becomes more and more likely for someone to do comparisons to fascism.”

                    2. if i can give an example spying on everyone, it’d be the nsa.

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                  Why are you worried about virtue signaling. I don’t care what you support. You might be a little wrapped up in useless frameworks of value and meaning.

                  What about the civil rights movement? It was because the US was a fascist government that harmed black folk. And then the USA police forces killed the leaders of the movement.

                  Sure, there were a few laws passed to stop some of the bad things, but they didn’t amount to much - black folk still lived in ghettos, they still lost most of the wealth they managed to build, they still didn’t get reparations.

                  So, yeah, I mean, the civil rights movement doesn’t disprove the US is a fascist nation

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                    1. is there any reason why you said “virtue signaling”?

                    2. also, i support the actions of civil rights leaders during the 1950s and 1960s and such.

                    3. if the us becomes a socialist/communist country during the great depression (after a period of socialism/communism becoming mainstream in the us), there’d be less poverty and such.