Simone reminds me of the class perspective: musicians here behave like atomized small owners, caught in their enterprecarity, who (legitimately) ask for some defense of their property rights, attacked both by hackers and by the big monopolists of platforms and AI. Because from these property rights, in this case IP, comes a rent, and from this rent, independent artists and label owners try to make a living. Again, right or wrong, this is what’s happening.
I remember reading somewhere that independent artists make basically no money from Spotify.
Is that still true, or have creators found a way to claw back value from the platform, and that’s why they’re defending it?
Spotify performs as one of the worst when it comes to creator royalties and appropriate pay.
It’s not THE worst, and these numbers have shifted since 2022. The general sentiment (that Spotify stiffs artists) is still shared by the general community.
I’m always surprised that Deezer is still around. Who on earth is still using it?
Also, fuck iHeartRadio. Not for their royalties, but for buying up tons of local stations and stripping them of anything that made them even remotely worth listening to. Fuckers bought the only station in town that played any amounts of metal and turned it into yet another top 10s station
I think the point is more general about profiting from “renting” their music rather than from their labor. The fact that Spotify gives them peanuts make their position even more miserable.
I remember reading somewhere that independent artists make basically no money from Spotify.
Is that still true, or have creators found a way to claw back value from the platform, and that’s why they’re defending it?
Spotify performs as one of the worst when it comes to creator royalties and appropriate pay.
It’s not THE worst, and these numbers have shifted since 2022. The general sentiment (that Spotify stiffs artists) is still shared by the general community.
This plot is complete BS, Deezer pays double than spotify.
I’m always surprised that Deezer is still around. Who on earth is still using it?
Also, fuck iHeartRadio. Not for their royalties, but for buying up tons of local stations and stripping them of anything that made them even remotely worth listening to. Fuckers bought the only station in town that played any amounts of metal and turned it into yet another top 10s station
I used Deezer up until last month, seemed fine to me
This graph is weird. Soundcloud looks like it pays more according to it, but it needs to swap positions with Spotify.
What’s up with soundlcouds position in that chart?
I think the point is more general about profiting from “renting” their music rather than from their labor. The fact that Spotify gives them peanuts make their position even more miserable.
This does not sound like they’re defending Spotify.