If top-left were also running their own sweatshop factory, then it would be hypocrisy.
People like your “Gotcha guy” are never sincere; you won’t see someone behave like that who actually does go to extremes to avoid all third-degree connections with anything unethical. It’s always someone just disingenuously being a dick trying to “pwn the libs”.
It looks to me like he’s engaging in fallacies. Even if the people in question are hypocrites, being one doesnt make a statement the person made wrong, so using an accusation of hypocrisy as a comeback comes off as an attempt to shut down a line of thinking about a large scale issue by redirecting the conversation to one person’s moral failings, without actually addressing the statements his comebacks are a response to at all.
good comedians do generally have to have some empathy and atleast a tangible connection to the working class, to remain relevant and keep their material relatable
exhibit A, for what happens if you don’t…Dave Chappelle, who went and ran off to some bougie town in ohio to build a palace around himself. his jokes started punching down instead of up, cause that’s how isolated rich people think fundamentally. like a 2hr standup where he told only told like 5 jokes leading up to a barely connected and not all that funny trans joke…compare that his earlier Clayton Bigsby/I’m Rick James Bitch! stuff…
there are some that can make this stuff work, like that Tosh.0 guy. no clue what he’s doing now but his whole shtick was acting as an obnoxious rich person talking down to an audience of what is also most likely rich californian assholes…which also plays great for the working class/rest of america crowd.
as for the quote, who the fuck knows…i have always liked Ben Stillers stuff though
Gotcha guy is annoying, but not wrong. Folks hate having their hypocrisy pointed out. So much in fact they make a comic about it.
If top-left were also running their own sweatshop factory, then it would be hypocrisy.
People like your “Gotcha guy” are never sincere; you won’t see someone behave like that who actually does go to extremes to avoid all third-degree connections with anything unethical. It’s always someone just disingenuously being a dick trying to “pwn the libs”.
It looks to me like he’s engaging in fallacies. Even if the people in question are hypocrites, being one doesnt make a statement the person made wrong, so using an accusation of hypocrisy as a comeback comes off as an attempt to shut down a line of thinking about a large scale issue by redirecting the conversation to one person’s moral failings, without actually addressing the statements his comebacks are a response to at all.
No, he is wrong. The points still stand since he didn’t counter them, he just brought up some unrelated bullshit.
Person A: “Smoking is associated with chronic health disorders. You shouldn’t smoke.”
Person B: “But you smoke yourself. So much for your argument!”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tu_quoque
Is this related to the rhetorically classic Tua Mater defence?
Ben Stiller said this? Lol
good comedians do generally have to have some empathy and atleast a tangible connection to the working class, to remain relevant and keep their material relatable
exhibit A, for what happens if you don’t…Dave Chappelle, who went and ran off to some bougie town in ohio to build a palace around himself. his jokes started punching down instead of up, cause that’s how isolated rich people think fundamentally. like a 2hr standup where he told only told like 5 jokes leading up to a barely connected and not all that funny trans joke…compare that his earlier Clayton Bigsby/I’m Rick James Bitch! stuff…
there are some that can make this stuff work, like that Tosh.0 guy. no clue what he’s doing now but his whole shtick was acting as an obnoxious rich person talking down to an audience of what is also most likely rich californian assholes…which also plays great for the working class/rest of america crowd.
as for the quote, who the fuck knows…i have always liked Ben Stillers stuff though
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