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    Honestly that isn’t bad. They were knowingly protecting people who target children.

    Privacy should be enforced on a technical level with zero knowledge

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        It has nothing to do with fascism. Fascism is what left leaning politicians call people they don’t agree with. On the right they call people they don’t like communists.

        Outside of that mini rant I disagree with the idea that Telegram is a force for good. Telegram doesn’t use e2ee and has questionable ties. They let people in public group chats post CSAM and other child abuse related stuff. If you look up telegram in the news it is constantly the platform used by criminals. It isn’t private and it sure isn’t anonymous. There are many better alternatives that don’t actively support human trafficking and such. Its not like Telegram has zero knowledge of what happens. They knowingly allowed people to exploit children and then to go around bragging and plotting to harm others.

        This isn’t some attack on freedom or privacy. Telegram is frankly a risk to all. If you want encrypted messaging there are many other platforms that are way less sketchy.

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        Time to close all the fascist schools and put the kids back in factories as Marx intended.

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            Hey don’t blame me. You’re the one who used the A-word in a place filled with OCD nitpickers and in a discussion around CSAM.

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          You seem to have made what’s known as a converse error in your logic:

          The person you replied to said that

          All fascist ideologies will use the argument of “Protecting the children”

          You seem to have mistakingly confused that with the false claim

          All arguments that use “Protecting the children” are made by fascist ideologies

          And as such you have responded to a statement the commenter never made.

          And equivalent mistake would be claim that since every time it rains it is cloudy, therefore whenever it is cloudy it is always raining. Honestly logical errors happen for everyone, I hope this helps.

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            The person you replied to said that

            All fascist ideologies will use the argument of “Protecting the children”
            

            Did they? Did you just make a reverse strawman fallacy?

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              Personally I think the comment could’ve been worded better as it can be interpreted either as

              … is always the excuse for fascism

              (I.E. Fascists use the excuse, provably correct and can be generalised to authoritarianism in general) However I do see that it could potentially be taken the other way as

              … is always the excuse for fascism …

              (I.E only those who used the excuse are fascists, completely false) I used the principle of charity and assumed the inital argument was logical, though its understandable if others aren’t willing to do that