• disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world
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    “Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power.”

    —Benito Mussolini

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      That’s a mischaracterization of what he meant. “Corporate” for the Italian fascists is not the same as “corporations” in the modern Americanized way.

      The “corpus” was the body, and corporate means uniting the guilds, or parts of the “corpus”/body, into the state, which is the “head”. So it’s basically a metaphor for the nation as a body, which in Latin is corpus.

      It’s basically syndicalism, but if the state controlled all unions and not the other way around.

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      I love how neolibs think of themselves as left when they are literally to the right of Ron fucking DeSantis. To quote DeSantis: “We are a nation with an economy, not the other way around.” Chuck Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries are economically to the right of the guy who ran in the GOP primary against Trump from the right, but the Blue MAGAs will hear none of it.

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          There’s just enough communists to lose an election but never enough to win one. Truly, the liberal electoral it’s paradox.

          But where is the lie? Eric Adams, Andrew Cuomo, and Curtis Sliwa were all stabbed in the back by the Leftists, costing the city three perfectly liberal Mayors.

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        The liberals that this post is directly talking about who believe themselves to be “leftists” while supporting a fundamentally right wing ideology.

        Who else would I be talking about?

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    There’s a reason liberals always side with fascists and never socialists.

    Fascism never threatens capitalism.

    In fact fascists rose to power through capitalism and complicit liberalism stopping leftists from gaining any sort of momentum/power to stop them

    Yup. Like I was trying to say (but seemed to be missed by most) with

    not my left and not even left

    at https://lemmy.wtf/post/34844222 / Digit @lemmy.wtf to Lefty Memes @lemmy.dbzer0.com

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    Fascists never threaten capitalism

    Glancing at the Argentinian economy

    Directly, maybe. But the fallout of fascism has ruined more than one billionaire.

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      You’re thinking of anarcho-capitalism. While also a far right ideology, it’s very much a different pile of shit than fascism is.

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    Umm, can I simply call BS. Currently it’s magats that are siding with the fascists in this very moment, right? As in what makes you think that this is even remotely close to the current situation?

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      And it’s liberals such as Pelosi, Hillary, Schumer, Obama, Biden, Clinton, etc. etc. who have stopped the leftists from having any sort of influence.

      The current situation arose because of all the previous situations.

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      Tell me you have no understanding of political analysis without telling me you have no understanding of political analysis.

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      MAGA is fascist. Liberalism is centrist, between fascism and socialism. “Liberal” in the sense of left of center is a vernacular usage essentially completely limited to the US.

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      Liberals don’t really give a shit about economic policy they care about human rights. That is why liberals are more on thr side of leftists than fascists. Going full communist is not going to be immediately helpful. What they meant to say was neoliberals(rich people who lean left socially but profit from the status quo)

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        Well that’s just absurd. Liberals have always cared about economic policy. That’s what liberals have been from their beginning. The liberal Revolution was the capitalist Revolution and vice versa. They’re inherently linked. What you are spouting here is a myth that liberals tell themselves and others to try to justify them continuing the capitalist system even though it goes against everything else they claim to believe, and which they will always favor over those supposedly beliefs.

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          No, just no. Liberals are interested in the pursuit of liberty it has nothing to do with economics and always has been

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            Liberalism has been linked to the ownership of private property since its inception. While it made some platitudes to social freedoms, they have not been the driving force.

            There’s a reason our freedoms have had to be protested and rioted to be gained from liberal governments.

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              How do you propose keeping the government from violating your living space? Do you think the current government is one you would like to be able to occupy or seize your home? With the army? See what I mean when I say I’m for liberty above all? Unless you’re calling for some kinda accelerationism, the commune isn’t something you can just pull out of your butt you have to change hearts and minds and ALONG the way, liberty must prevail, always.