• CerebralHawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    Many of my favourite and recently played games let you be trans, though it depends on how you define it. For me (a cis man) it means the ability to set your physical sex and presented gender in opposite directions.

    Cyberpunk 2077 is the best at this. You can give your character breasts (3 different sizes) or not. Entirely separately from that, you can give your character a penis (cut or natural) or a vulva (full bush, trim job, or waxed). And entirely separately from both of those, you can give your character a male voice or a female voice. The game also features a trans woman, and it’s not even clear or obvious she’s trans unless you do her side quest to completion. If you didn’t notice the trans flag on her truck, she talks about her transition when she tells you about her late husband. And literally no one, not even the guy she tries to kill (or have you kill) in her quest line, makes an issue of her being trans. Everyone just accepts it, as they should.

    Animal Crossing comes from a country (Japan) that is so conservative, a mangaka (manga author) received death threats for not having his male protagonist hook up with a girl at the end of his long running popular shounen (young men) battle series. So to satiate those homophobes (note he did not have the guy hook up with a guy either, he just said they were too busy focusing on the fighting to pursue any romance), he released a bonus chapter where the main guy and main girl agree to team up. That seemed to shut everybody up, but it also fueled the homophobia. A lot of people started saying that the gays lose and the straights won, like we have to be in competition or something. Anyway, Animal Crossing. One of the biggest games out there and certainly Nintendo’s best selling game recently. So you can never change your name, which kinda sucks, but you can change your gender identity at any time, and you can always wear what you want. There are no rules on which gender can wear which outfits. If you give a male villager a dress, they will try it on. I mean the animals. You, the player, the only human on the island, can wear whatever you want, and you’ll be complimented if you wear 2 or more from the same set, or I think 3 or more of the same colour. You also have makeup and face paint options. There is no voice acting, so that isn’t a factor. The animals kind of chirp? If you know, you know. Animal Crossing language is kind of its own thing, and it’s not gendered. But the human villager never makes a sound. Pronouns are the only sticking point here. You’re sometimes given pronouns based on your selected gender identity, and sometimes it’s they/them regardless. But hey, it’s Nintendo, a Japanese company, based out of a traditional homophobic country. So I give them props for what they did do.

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      What manga?

      By the way, same-sex relationships in Japanese media are pretty common. Gender-diverse people too. By western standards now it’s hit-or-miss, but 20 years ago Japan was far ahead. I think the portrayal of queer people in Japanese media has stayed pretty consistent since then, or improved only a little bit. But it’s still pretty decent I’d say, in the scheme of things.

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          Having no breasts would mean having a gaping hole in your torso. Male breasts are also called breasts.

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    I think this feeling is at least part of why a lot of trans people become game devs, too. It’s part of why I am. The feeling of freedom with who I could be was really powerful for me and now I want to be able to craft that feeling for others

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    Careful. Y’alqueda is gonna start forcing you to input your Drivers License and only allow you to play as your gender listed on it.

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      “Gender euphoria” is a term has been around for ages. It exists at least since 1976, from what I’ve read online. I personally haven’t heard “euphoria” being used very often (except for the name of that one TV show), so I can’t really say if it has been overused lately.

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        That’s fair, I didn’t realize it was such an old term.

        This use feels weird to me, but I’m not trans, so maybe I just don’t get it.

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          Gender euphoria is the opposite of gender dysphoria.

          Like, if you woke up and were physically the opposite gender but mentally still felt to your core that you were your current gender. That discordance and, to some, disgust and physical pain, is gender dysphoria. Hard to imagine, sure.

          Gender euphoria is the state that people experience in opposition to that. When what you see in the mirror matches up well with how you feel inside. Most people will take this state for granted, but for many trans people it is the exception, not the rule.

          Hope this helps understand why euphoria is by no means an exaggeration in this sense :)

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            Yep thinking of it in linguistic terms being the opposite of dysphoria makes more sense. I was just thinking in terms of the emotion, which yeah I totally understand it being very gratifying I just couldn’t see it being “euphoric”. Thanks for the explanation

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    This is also why the backstepping into hentai ladies in every game is a problem.

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    I don’t care what sexuality people have. Let videogames be videogames and not controlled by some preference of sexual orientation.

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      Being trans isn’t about sexual orientation, and people can make their games about whatever they want. Let people enjoy things, it’s ok if it’s not for you.

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        But they have influence on the games I do play (and spam the forums too). They don’t let us enjoy by forcing their gender (and sexual orientation) into games where it does not belong to. Mind you, I am not talking about roleplaying games where it makes sense, like Cyberpunk.

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          Your arguments fall apart immediately. Every. Single. Person. that buys games influences the ones that are released, and others are allowed to have opinions too and their perspectives included. And be real: no one’s “spamming” forums, you just don’t want to hear from anyone with a different world-view.

          They don’t let us enjoy by forcing their gender (and sexual orientation) into games where it does not belong to.

          Absolute nonsense, no one’s keeping you from enjoying whatever you like. And the developers made the game they wanted, nothing is being “forced in”. Did you know that you don’t have to play games you don’t agree with? I genuinely feel bad for your snowflake-ass. It’s clear that LGBTQ+ folks existing is too much for you to handle, and you miss the days where they were forced to hide who they are. Life is about change and growth, but you’re choosing to remain bigoted and angry…

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          The only people I’ve seen “spam the forums” are people whining about “DEI” and “woke” (source: like, 90% of the game discussion forums on Steam). Coincidentally, most of the ones that aren’t “just asking questions” have exactly the same “they’re forcing it on us” language, and you’ll have to pardon me for immediately finding that language suspect.

          No one is forcing a gender on you. No one is forcing a sexual orientation upon you. Only assholes that think conversion therapy is a valid thing think that’s okay. Frankly, it’s REALLY weird that you parse it that way, versus “these people exist, so of course they’re in games”. Are you bothered by characters that aren’t the same race as you?

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          But you have influence on the games I play and force your gender and sexual orientation into games where it doesn’t belong.

          Since when is providing an option or a character existing forcing anything on you? Why are you in favor of less choice in games?

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          Hey there. I don’t know of anything that would lead me to agree with you, but I’d like to understand where you’re coming from when saying that gender / sexual orientation is being forced upon you. I’d appreciate it if you could provide some examples where you consider that this is happening. I’m not a troll, and I’m not here to make fun of you. Not only would it be extremely childish of my part, but I also think the Internet and the Lemmyverse can be used for more productive things. Perhaps it can even be used for us to learn new things together…? If you prefer to talk via DMs, I can do that too.

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            Yeah most people are not here to discuss and are toxic, that’s why I don’t answer to most.

            I am not saying the sexual orientation or gender is forced on my, but rather for games where it does not matter should not be a factor of deciding how the game is made. What I mean is in example Marvel Rivals, people want trans characters added to it. And that has implications for gameplay and such. In example there are very popular characters from Marvel universe that could be added and needed too, in specific gameplay features. But if the gender is a deciding factor, then it affects gameplay decisions of developers.

            Or in games like Zelda, people want a character where you can set the gender. But this has huge implications for the story and also requires lot of work for no real benefit, other than your gender being different. Nobody should care in games about your personal gender, its not about you.

            And on a personal experience in the forums, what’s really bad is, if developers don’t do it, then those people get toxic and attack everyone in the communities for not doing it. Also spamming at every post about this, even if its offtopic.

            However I can understand asking for this in games where you roleplay you as a character, or even if there is a character creator. Especially in games like Cyberpunk it makes 100% sense to include these as options. So I am not talking about those kind of games.

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      Being trans is not a sexuality or sexual orientation.

      Beyond that, who is “controlling” videogames with some nefarious trans narrative?