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I’ve used uBlock to get rid of everything: the homepage (leaving only the search bar; so no stupid video suggestions), the upcoming videos and the comment section. I go on Youtube to watch the videos I know I want to watch, not find new videos. I know this sounds a bit radical, but it works well for me.
Huh. I love shorts. I have a curated YouTube account that shows me very interesting shorts about science, music, gaming, comedy, PC building, web development, tech news, etc etc. I wonder why people don’t like shorts. Using YouTube without being logged in?
Shorts are deliberately and effectively addictive. Once Google found out they could copy the TikTok paradigm without being sued, they forced it down everyone’s throat. Ever wonder why you can’t disable shorts? Because they KNOW it’s addictive. We are being farmed.
YouTube is a vital tool for news and information. It should be NATIONALIZED, and purposefully exploitative technology like shorts should be BANNED.
I agree with everything you said, to some degree. I’m just saying that shorts on my account are great, because I’ve honed my algorithm over many years so that it only gives me relevant stuff. I never see anything I don’t want to see, basically. My Watch Later list overfloweth. 😅
it’s mostly the interface, the layout, the clickbaityness the format encourages, and the fact that no useful information can fit in that short a video.
the fact that no useful information can fit in that short a video.
Have to disagree with the notion that this is a fact. I watch informative and interesting shorts all the time. Plenty out there if you have the right subscriptions and are careful with how you use the service.
E.g. you must never scroll shorts. Watch the ones you want to see, then back out, so you never see anything that pollutes your account history.
If you see something you don’t like, put a negative vote on it, maybe even click “don’t see this account again” or whatever it’s called. And vice versa, upvote and subscribe to stuff you like.
It requires some effort but for me it’s worth the interesting content.
Alphabet is known to mess around with the algorithms so you’ll always get disgusting Nazi shit in your suggestions sooner or later. Also, a lot of people can’t back out of doom-scrolling, because of bad impulse control (people with ADHD for example). And even if there’s something informative in there. It will always lack a lot of information. It’s like merely reading the headline of an article and then going into the comments, claiming you know everything about the topic (happens on Lemmy a lot).
It’s nice that you seem to have a grip on these shorts, but it’s even greater that you can use certain tools to eradicate them. On my mobile phone I use YouTube revanced and on Firefox/waterfox I use Tweaks for YouTube. With the latter you can also change the thumbnail size and grid the way you want so you don’t have to cope with the ridiculously large thumbnails.
I do not get Nazi content lol. Sometimes I’ll see some right wing shit on there but I just go in and press “don’t recommend this channel” on all those before even watching it. It’s been a long time now since I’ve seen a recommendation that doesn’t suit me.
But yeah, not everyone can control YouTube, or themselves, like I can. All I’m saying is that I like shorts. I do agree that they can be dangerous. 😅
idk with the old shorts this was more true, but now if it’s like a quick tips thing or just a preview of a longer video, so long as you’re not scrolling shorts and only scarcely engage with the more informative ones, they seem to have a place. Youtube pushes them to be infinitely scrolled clickbait garbage though so that’s probably the experience for 95% of people.
This is the key. I never scroll shorts. I only click deliberately on the ones I know I want to see. Then back out. This way there is little to no pollution.
uBlock Origin can also get rid of Shorts in Youtube, as well as the hover-play functionaliy, and annotations on videos.
Just paste this into your uBlock Origin settings/myFilters:
! Kill YT Shorts youtube.com##ytd-reel-shelf-renderer youtube.com##.html5-endscreen-content youtube.com##.html5-endscreen youtube.com##.ytp-ce-element youtube.com###video-preview-container annotations_module.js$script,domain=youtube.com /endscreen.js$script,domain=www.youtube.com****Does that kill just shorts or everything you mentioned in your comment?
Everything in the comment. They’re all pretty well described if you wanted to pick-and-choose.
There is also the Unhook extension if you want to fine tune what components are visible on YouTube.
I thought hover play functionality can be turned off in youtube settings?
But as I was typing this, I realised it’s useful for non logged in youtube, I assume.
Aso, YT has a tendency to reset settings like that whenever you log in.
That’s true too.
I’ve used uBlock to get rid of everything: the homepage (leaving only the search bar; so no stupid video suggestions), the upcoming videos and the comment section. I go on Youtube to watch the videos I know I want to watch, not find new videos. I know this sounds a bit radical, but it works well for me.
Oh my GOD thank you
Huh. I love shorts. I have a curated YouTube account that shows me very interesting shorts about science, music, gaming, comedy, PC building, web development, tech news, etc etc. I wonder why people don’t like shorts. Using YouTube without being logged in?
Shorts are deliberately and effectively addictive. Once Google found out they could copy the TikTok paradigm without being sued, they forced it down everyone’s throat. Ever wonder why you can’t disable shorts? Because they KNOW it’s addictive. We are being farmed.
YouTube is a vital tool for news and information. It should be NATIONALIZED, and purposefully exploitative technology like shorts should be BANNED.
YouTube is a “vital” tool for uneducated opinions and mis-information FTFY
I agree with everything you said, to some degree. I’m just saying that shorts on my account are great, because I’ve honed my algorithm over many years so that it only gives me relevant stuff. I never see anything I don’t want to see, basically. My Watch Later list overfloweth. 😅
it’s mostly the interface, the layout, the clickbaityness the format encourages, and the fact that no useful information can fit in that short a video.
Have to disagree with the notion that this is a fact. I watch informative and interesting shorts all the time. Plenty out there if you have the right subscriptions and are careful with how you use the service.
E.g. you must never scroll shorts. Watch the ones you want to see, then back out, so you never see anything that pollutes your account history.
If you see something you don’t like, put a negative vote on it, maybe even click “don’t see this account again” or whatever it’s called. And vice versa, upvote and subscribe to stuff you like.
It requires some effort but for me it’s worth the interesting content.
Alphabet is known to mess around with the algorithms so you’ll always get disgusting Nazi shit in your suggestions sooner or later. Also, a lot of people can’t back out of doom-scrolling, because of bad impulse control (people with ADHD for example). And even if there’s something informative in there. It will always lack a lot of information. It’s like merely reading the headline of an article and then going into the comments, claiming you know everything about the topic (happens on Lemmy a lot).
It’s nice that you seem to have a grip on these shorts, but it’s even greater that you can use certain tools to eradicate them. On my mobile phone I use YouTube revanced and on Firefox/waterfox I use Tweaks for YouTube. With the latter you can also change the thumbnail size and grid the way you want so you don’t have to cope with the ridiculously large thumbnails.
I do not get Nazi content lol. Sometimes I’ll see some right wing shit on there but I just go in and press “don’t recommend this channel” on all those before even watching it. It’s been a long time now since I’ve seen a recommendation that doesn’t suit me.
But yeah, not everyone can control YouTube, or themselves, like I can. All I’m saying is that I like shorts. I do agree that they can be dangerous. 😅
idk with the old shorts this was more true, but now if it’s like a quick tips thing or just a preview of a longer video, so long as you’re not scrolling shorts and only scarcely engage with the more informative ones, they seem to have a place. Youtube pushes them to be infinitely scrolled clickbait garbage though so that’s probably the experience for 95% of people.
This is the key. I never scroll shorts. I only click deliberately on the ones I know I want to see. Then back out. This way there is little to no pollution.