• Digit@lemmy.wtfEnglish
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    3 days ago

    How about ex-Nazis who are disgusted at ever having fallen for that indoctrination and ever being so incurious, ignorant, hateful and bigoted, and have now vowed to help end Nazism?

    … Like many of those who Daryl Davis spoke to now are.

    Just bullets for them too?

    Always a better way.

    Beware those seeking to preach the one true way, especially of violent power over others, as malicious archons.

    More tools in the toolbox than just a hammer helps see people as people, not nails.

    Better ways than opposaming, becoming them, and provoking them with the problem that has them react craving their solution of more Nazism.

    Y’know? Can’t get there from here.

    • Knoxvomica@lemmy.ca
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      3 days ago

      Homie, if Nazis don’t want bullets they can stop when they want. We didn’t chat it out with Nazi Germany, we exterminated.

      • Digit@lemmy.wtfEnglish
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        3 days ago

        Didn’t watch any of the Daryl Davis vids I linked there, did you?

        How about, we get a few more Daryl Davises around and it wont get to Nazi Germany level again.

        One man, over 200 people de-nazi’fied, many (I presume) even turned any of libertarian, anarchist, or (genuinely) socialist. If it were all [Edit: (or even if not, since pretty much anything’s more positive than Nazi)], could even say that’s an over 400 people shift to the positive.

        How many Nazis have you stopped being Nazi by killing them? And how many more Nazis did that make, as they rose up in lockstep vowing to end you and anyone like you all the more, in vindictive retribution?

        Or is that the plan? Keep psychologically driving them harder and deeper into Nazism, and more of them, until we do end up in a Nazi Germany level again?

        [Edit: PS: Mattias Desmet’s book, The Psychology of Totalitarianism is a superb read on the topic too. Save us it can. Don’t let them reach their dire tipping points. Keep speaking up. Shatter their illusion of the one true way.]

        • Knoxvomica@lemmy.ca
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          3 days ago

          You’re at Nazi Germany already, no ones woken up to it yet. “They thought they were free”.

          • Digit@lemmy.wtfEnglish
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            3 days ago

            You’re at Nazi Germany already, no ones woken up to it yet. “They thought they were free”.

            Yeah. Good point. If the shoe fits? I never saw the shoe come off. Continual fascism.

            Nullifies:

            We didn’t chat it out with Nazi Germany, we exterminated.

            So if that did not even work… maybe time to look to other solutions. Maybe high time we each look around and see who’s having a lot of success. Oh look, Daryl Davis has had over 200 Nazis and KKK cease being so. :3 Could be worth looking into. ;)

            • Knoxvomica@lemmy.ca
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              3 days ago

              How about you do the Daryl Davis thing and ill be ready over here when the Nazis start rounding people up. I fucking know who he is you don’t need to keep bringing it up.