Just like last time I know it all finished airing over Christmas and New Years, but since those are inconvenient times for some, let’s discuss the series finale of Stranger Things.

  • MimicJar@lemmy.worldOPM
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    Re Kali/Eight/Eleven’s magic power sister.

    I thought it was a bold choice to bring back Kali as part of this season. It was one of the big cliffhanger moments of season 5 volume 1. But… I don’t think it worked.

    If you work backwards from the ending, it makes sense why you have Kali. She has illusion powers so Eleven’s fake out “I believe” ending can work. I like that ending. But what did Kali do during the series?

    Well she convinces El the only way to end the cycle of monsters and torture is for them to die. And if you work backwards from that, that’s why Hopper has his “the only solution is to die” moment earlier in the series. It’s a parallel.

    So Kali has a key purpose… But what does SHE actually do? They have another super powered person and she just wanders around until she dies.

    I know she was a bit of a nihilist at that point on her life, but even as they’re putting together the final plan, she doesn’t have a part in that plan. Her death just doesn’t matter.

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      I want to believe as well.

      The problem with Mike’s story is that Kali was in the lab that was the closest to the explosion she would have been killed before she could maintain the invisibility spell that hid El.

      I have to hand it to the Duffers it was a nice touch.

      Kali spent her life on the run robbing banks until she was captured to have her blood drained.

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        I mean she was in season 2. It’s just that she was in the weird one off worst rated episode.

        Bringing her back was a bold choice… I’m just don’t think it worked.

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          I saw part of S2. I remember there being several psychic kids at some point but I can’t recall anything else, or her specifically.

          My fault for not bothering to catch up before watching the latest, of course.

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            I mean it was a bold choice to feature a character from a disliked backdoor pilot episode. The best thing to do would have been to just let everyone forget about it and move on. The decision to bring her back is odd, but if you’ve got a good reason then let’s do it.

            But… It doesn’t seem like they did.

            Like it’s not your fault at all. You saw the previous episode she was in, the one with the psychic kids. I could blame you if that character was mentioned at all in season 3 or 4, but they weren’t.

            This would be like referencing something Superhero Bob did. Remember that speech he gave Will?

            I don’t ultimately hate the decision, it was just kinda meh.

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              /boggle

              The sister was introduced in E8 of an 9 Episode season. The dude saw that episode but doesn’t remember her. He then skips the next two seasons and is lost in S5.

              YES IT IS FAULT…

              Give me a break.

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        Ummm, if you saw pretty much all of S2, but dont remember it. You then saw none of 3 or 4…. you probably had no idea who Max was, who Henry was, who Vecna was.

        How were you not completely lost in S5 and more importantly why did you bother seeing it?

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          Spouse is a fan, I watched in classic dad mode from a standing position behind the couch. I don’t think I’d seen Henry or Vecna before. I saw Max’s introduction I think.