• deranger@sh.itjust.works
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    9
    ·
    edit-2
    18 hours ago

    You’re the only one using that definition. There is no stipulation that it’s from something that happened.

    Where is your definition coming from?

    • mindbleach@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      18 hours ago

      My definition is from what words mean.

      We need a term to specifically refer to actual photographs of actual child abuse. What the fuck are we supposed to call that, such that schmucks won’t use the same label to refer to drawings?

      • deranger@sh.itjust.works
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        edit-2
        10 hours ago

        I already did the “what words mean” thing earlier.

        -involves a child
        -is sexual
        -is abusive (here’s your Simpsons exclusion, btw)
        -is material

        That’s literally every word of CSAM, and it fits.

        We need a term to specifically refer to actual photographs of actual child abuse

        Why? You’ve made a whole lot of claims it should be your way but you’ve provided no sources nor any justification as to why we need to delineate between real and AI.

        • mindbleach@sh.itjust.works
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          2 hours ago

          Are you honestly asking me why child molestation is worse than rendering an image?

          This term was already developed to distinguish evidence of criminal events. I should fucking hope everyone here understands why preventing or punishing such events is a leading goal, but apparently that’s asking too much, if y’all really do not believe there’s a difference between pasting someone’s head onto a magazine centerfold… versus sexually assaulting them. I am fucking bewildered by this lack of consensus on the topic of child rape. Really thought it was a gimme, for everyone to go, yeah, this thing over here is bad, but obviously it’s not as bad as child rape.

          Didn’t expect to fire up the computer and have Lemmings sincerely ask me, why are crimes that happened worse than crimes that didn’t?