• MachineFab812@discuss.tchncs.de
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    … the time to do this shit has long been upon us. Who gives a fuck what they can do, until they do it? As an American, I’m begging you, put up or shut-up.

    I didn’t vote for the baby in office, and I would gladly suffer to see his toys taken away by the adults.

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      I said this in another thread but I’ll say it again, threats are only useful if you hold leverage. If they blow their load, what else can they hold over the heads of the US? They need to threaten, and then if they threat isn’t listened to then they act on it. Doing it now just ensures there’s not much of a punishment left to be dealt, so there’s no reason not to invade. Sure, the economy will collapse, but that would happen either way in the case they act now.

      If I hold a knife to you and threaten you with it, you’ll listen. If I just stab you then what reason do you have to listen? Just like nukes, the only use for a threat is in not using it. If you do have to use it then you’ve lost the reason they may have held back.

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      I wont suffer from this, but ill gladly watch you and my neighbirs suffer! obviously not being serious, but damn thats almost what you sound like lol. If you had some money, suddenly youre an asshole with that mindset is all. My neighbors who cant tough it out shouldnt suffer because you accept a raw deal is all im sayin

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        Depends on the neighbor. If they have a trump flag, fuckem. I literally don’t give a shit anymore. “Oh if you say people should suffer the consequences of their actions you’re somehow in favor of collective punishment” is a braindead take that is only used by people trying to get out of the consequences of their actions.

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        Facts ≠ Opinions, although I am going by the title where it says “Can”, rather than “should”. I stated my opinion though.

        Maybe Europe would act, if enough former colonies call them cowards.