cross-posted from: https://discuss.online/post/34255100

Thought I’d create a distinct thread from the previous one asking about daily use, because I really do want to hear more on people’s pain points. Great to know people are generally sounding pretty positive in those posts who recently switched, but want to know your difficulties as well! This way old and new users can share their thoughts, hopefully to inspire a respectful discussion.

  • planish@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    4·
    5 hours ago

    dist-upgrade must die.

    I spent like three hours I didn’t have the other day trying to bring a Debian Unstable system up to date, it decided to stop every few packages to tell me it failed because the t64 libraries conflict with the regular ones and nobody taught apt how to figure that shit out for me and install the right ones.

    Even Ubuntu is like “oh hey there’s a new release, you’re available for three hours straight to, every two to fifty minutes, explain to a TUI dialog that you don’t have an opinion, right? Oh also can you resolve this merge conflict on this config file we think you edited, but you didn’t, by being shown the diff once and then opening nano?”

    This is not an acceptable way for this to go.

    • Holytimes@sh.itjust.works
      4·
      4 hours ago

      Life protip, if you arnt using Debian, as in normal Debian. Just use fedora or arch.

      If you need anything remotely up to date, just avoid anything and everything that uses apt. You will have Infinitly less headaches.

      There’s a good fucking reason valve uses arch.

    • 9488fcea02a9@sh.itjust.works
      2·
      5 hours ago

      Debian unstable is not a distro…

      You cant complain about software breakage in a software that is still under development

      Consider it as an early access game on steam.

      • planish@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        1·
        4 hours ago

        What it is is my attempt to avoid the nonsense biannual massive Ubuntu upgrades.

        Really I’ve got “Siduction”, an ostensible distro “based on” Debian Unstable. This is accomplished by just having the Debian Unstable package sources in there, plus a couple others that give you pretty themes.

        I expect Debian Unstable to occasionally ship me broken packages, but I’m surprised to have it just generally not have functional migration solutions when the setup goes through major changes. Not because there’s a bug in something, as far as I can tell, but because nobody engineered anything.