Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy has criticised Europe over its approach to security issues, including Greenland, during his speech at the World Economic Forum in Davos.
Still seems dumb. There’s never going to be a battle over Greenland, at least not again. The last time in WWII Denmark folded to the Germans like a house of cards, the US took it so the Germans wouldn’t have it, and then later the US gave it back to Denmark. It sounds like a deal for it to return to the US is already in the works.
We’ll see. I wish Lemmy had a remind me function. Trump was happy enough with what he heard that he backed off of the tariffs for now. If Denmark actually had the ability to defend it, the US wouldn’t be going after it but the world is better off with it in the hands of the US than China or Russia. Denmark’s history and current state don’t give anyone much confidence though. They haven’t been good for the people of Greenland either. The cost of living is outrageous and they forced the indigenous peoples into the little cities.
We have a treaty with Denmark recognizing their ownership and giving us the US Virgin Islands. This treaty was ratified by Congress and is now federal law. Violating the treaty is violating federal law, there is no grey area here.
This is why the only actions by the Trump administration have been talking.
If Denmark actually had the ability to defend it, the US wouldn’t be going after it
This has absolutely nothing to do with being able to defend Greenland. The strategic sea chokepoint in northern Greenland has a US military base about 20 miles away. Every single domestic US air base can strike that area using aerial refueling points operating with impunity over the North American IADS.
China has zero ability to operate in the Arctic and Russia can’t even dominate a country where they share a land border. The idea that either of these countries is going to invade NATO, much less North America is so absurd that I question your motivation for even mentioning it. It’d be like suggesting that we need the island to repel a Martian invasion, completely fantasy nonsense.
This is about rare earth deposits. When Trump was bragging about his Davos ‘deal’ he kept mentioning mineral rights, not new defense installations. He has large donors who are already involved in Greenland’s mineral extraction industry and they would almost certainly be the only companies who’d recieve the rights to these deposits.
This is Trump shaking down another ally for money.
In the 40s there was a lot more polar ice stopping ships getting there, and far fewer long-range bombers, ballistic missiles and cruise missiles. If the US went to war against Russia or China (instead of siding with them against Europe), Greenland would see a lot more action in its immediate vicinity. That’s why the preexisting deal lets the US station effectively as much of their military there as they’d like.
Still seems dumb. There’s never going to be a battle over Greenland, at least not again. The last time in WWII Denmark folded to the Germans like a house of cards, the US took it so the Germans wouldn’t have it, and then later the US gave it back to Denmark. It sounds like a deal for it to return to the US is already in the works.
No? The only ‘deal’ for Greenland is Trump fucking off and not entirely losing face.
We’ll see. I wish Lemmy had a remind me function. Trump was happy enough with what he heard that he backed off of the tariffs for now. If Denmark actually had the ability to defend it, the US wouldn’t be going after it but the world is better off with it in the hands of the US than China or Russia. Denmark’s history and current state don’t give anyone much confidence though. They haven’t been good for the people of Greenland either. The cost of living is outrageous and they forced the indigenous peoples into the little cities.
The military already gave him a hard no.
We have a treaty with Denmark recognizing their ownership and giving us the US Virgin Islands. This treaty was ratified by Congress and is now federal law. Violating the treaty is violating federal law, there is no grey area here.
This is why the only actions by the Trump administration have been talking.
This has absolutely nothing to do with being able to defend Greenland. The strategic sea chokepoint in northern Greenland has a US military base about 20 miles away. Every single domestic US air base can strike that area using aerial refueling points operating with impunity over the North American IADS.
China has zero ability to operate in the Arctic and Russia can’t even dominate a country where they share a land border. The idea that either of these countries is going to invade NATO, much less North America is so absurd that I question your motivation for even mentioning it. It’d be like suggesting that we need the island to repel a Martian invasion, completely fantasy nonsense.
This is about rare earth deposits. When Trump was bragging about his Davos ‘deal’ he kept mentioning mineral rights, not new defense installations. He has large donors who are already involved in Greenland’s mineral extraction industry and they would almost certainly be the only companies who’d recieve the rights to these deposits.
This is Trump shaking down another ally for money.
In the 40s there was a lot more polar ice stopping ships getting there, and far fewer long-range bombers, ballistic missiles and cruise missiles. If the US went to war against Russia or China (instead of siding with them against Europe), Greenland would see a lot more action in its immediate vicinity. That’s why the preexisting deal lets the US station effectively as much of their military there as they’d like.