Chinese propaganda is rampant on the fediverse. We need to discuss ways to combat this. One group- memes or something is wholly controlled by Chinese state actors. What do you think?

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    Yes those are my words. I never said anything about attacking civilians. Maybe I should have elaborated, but I was talking about hitting Moscow and St. Petersburg. The other guy was talking about civilians. Just because someone puts up a straw man and I didn’t immediately tear it down doesn’t mean I said something.

    But this is what it’s like on .ml. Someone will twist your argument into something that can get you banned without you even saying the words that you are getting banned for. It’s a worthless place to be.

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      Your deleted comment was also about nothing will change until the people feel it when talking about how Ukraine needs to hit Russian cities.

      Which gets back to asking what you think people are if not civilians.

      Just because someone puts up a straw man and I didn’t immediately tear it down doesn’t mean I said something.

      It’s not a strawman when you start with bomb the cities

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        They will feel it when they see targets in their cities being hit. And I’ve already told you what targets I meant.

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          Which again gets back to do you not care or think about the people living in the cities?

          Or it okay as long as a legal order? Cause there’s others on lemmy who love to say that’s fine even if order is to target civilians

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            Yes it’s okay as long as it’s a legal order. And there are plenty of legal targets in Moscow and St. Petersburg.

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              So you see how people react to that and go wow that person wants <insert country here> to be able to kill civilians?

              Especially after saying and I quote

              Yes it’s okay as long as it’s a legal order. And there are plenty of legal targets in Moscow and St. Petersburg.

              it’s fine if a legal order?

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              Oh people quoting you is probably what you meant by

              But this is what it’s like on .ml. Someone will twist your argument into something that can get you banned without you even saying the words that you are getting banned for. It’s a worthless place to be.

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                If you want to give an example of what an .ml mindfuck, being taken out of context and banned is like, congrats you have succeeded.

                So you think it’s legal to expressly target civilians?

                And no one could quote me saying the things they said I did because I didn’t.

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                  This is literally what was removed and the entire argument/question. Do you think people are okay targets if in wrong country, and it’s yes.

                  So you think it’s legal to expressly target civilians?

                  Again it was if it’s a legal order is it okay for them to kill people or civilians and you said yes. But now that you see it you’re not too no I totally meant not if being specifically targeted, but it’s fine if they’re collateral

                  Like fuck how does this keep happening, especially from the ones calling ml a shit hole

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                    I think we have a misunderstanding. I meant legal by international law. It is not legal by international law to target civilians. So no, I do not think it’s okay to target civilians, full stop.

                    But yes this is very much how .ml feels. Twisting words to achieve some sort of propaganda win. Excellent job there.