Why are people not protesting ? Businesses should stop buying Microsoft licenses and that should force Microsoft to remove bill gates completely from the company. Same should be done with Musk, trump etc.

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        I said if. I’m not talking about underage sex trafficking. I’m saying I don’t think prostitution makes anyone a bad person.

        There’s the immoral factor when cheating, but that’s way different than pedo rape.

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      even if they were of age, i wouldn’t call it consent when there’s such an extreme power differential. there’s a reason why billionaires mostly target working class women and girls to rape

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        So you’re saying, that if a woman of sound mind and body, chooses to consent to having sex with a billionaire for money that it’s still wrong because the billionaire has more money and power.

        Even though she could say no? Even if it was of her own volition, that it’s still wrong?

        To me it sounds like you are assuming that women can’t make their own choices.

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          Even though she could say no?

          a lot of them did say no years after the fact but I have a feeling you’re the type of person who wouldn’t understand that consent works like this

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            Years after after the fact

            Uh… So it became sexual abuse several years after it happened?

            If that’s the case I think people should stop having sex altogether. And relationships in general. Hell, there’s been times where I’ve regretted intercourse later on too, but never have I thought about it as being rape after the fact.

            The issue with revoking consent after the fact is that you can literally just make anyone a rapist that way. Hell you can do it on purpose if you want to. Pretend to consent and then later say you decided it wasn’t consensual at all.

            In the case of the #MeToo movement you mentioned in another comment, there was usually an explicit or implicit tit-for-tat. I.e “you aren’t getting this role unless you sleep with me” that affected a person’s career. That itself makes consent invalid IMO because it’s coerced. But if you decide to have sex with a billionaire for money - well, there was going to be no negative effect to not doing it. You can live on without that money. Weinstein (and many others like him, I’m sure) acted as a gatekeeper to something rare, movie roles. Money is plentiful in this world and there’s other ways to get it.

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            We’re not talking about reality here. I was making a point that prostitution shouldn’t be unethical or illegal when consensual.

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          Hell, let’s take that line of reasoning a bit further

          On average, men are significantly stronger than women so there’s a power imbalance there too. That would mean that on average, heterosexual relationships are non-consensual

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          i have similar thoughts and to me it’s really just about the balance of power. It could just as easily be a billionaire woman and a working man. I think in any kind of relationship (the broad term, not the dating term) each person needs to be accountable to each other. Good outcomes can still happen when somebody is unaccountable, but there is massive risk. And I go by the motto that power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. If somebody has a lot of power, they will use it for evil. One goal of society should be to make that impossible.

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      I haven’t seen the actual documents being talked about in these articles, yet, but they may have actually been of age.

      Definitely not consenting if they worked for Epstein, though. He was a human trafficker.