To me, the sloppy codebase means I wouldn’t want to selfhost it. And the presence of hardcoded filtering of things the devs dislike (even if it can be manually worked around) is for me a very good indicator that more shenanigans will come along the line.
If you have no problems with what I mentioned then I don’t think we have much in common ground to argue on. You can enjoy PieFed and I will continue to enjoy Lemmy.
I just want people to be informed about these things that I find highly problematic before they decide to use or selfhost PieFed.
New users joining from Reddit aren’t dealing with self-hosting - they’re just using it. I will also add I have seen a lot of praise for how easy it is to host piefed from other instance owners.
New users joining from Reddit aren’t dealing with self-hosting - they’re just using it.
Yes, and so I am concerned they might not know what “bad list” might be hardcoded into the software they’re using.
I will also add I have seen a lot of praise for how easy it is to host piefed from other instance owners.
Yeah, I think Lemmy needs to be made easier to selfhost. From the choice of programming language, the Lemmy backend must be more efficient and secure, so it should be the better choice for most selfhosters (exceptions being the active ones who are interested in patching the stuff they host and want to do so in Python).
You have already completely misunderstood this “bad list” that you referred to here. It isn’t and even at its peak before 196 mods complained, a block on all communities with those keywords.
Can you explain what it does then? Below is my understanding. Correct me where I am wrong.
The “bad list” blocks any community with that name from being federated. So for example if I go to a random PieFed instance and search for the ‘piracy’ community, I get no results
The admin can circumvent this by manually adding the community. Some big instances (including yours) have done that, but smaller ones (like the one I linked) haven’t.
Rimu built a tool for new instance owners to bulk federate external communities on their instance to populate it. Kind of like a piefed lemmy-federate. In it, he excluded federation from communities with certain keywords that you have already bought up. The keywords were taken from another function that piefed.social has to stop listing posts and comments after 6 months applied to specific communities.
This didn’t translate well, and he removed multiple keywords referenced here from the mass federation tool when 196 mod complained.
Piefed.co.za is less than a day old and likely has done no federation at all yet. The owner literally said it’s all set up now but he’s tired and doing other things now in the Zulip chat.
To me, the sloppy codebase means I wouldn’t want to selfhost it. And the presence of hardcoded filtering of things the devs dislike (even if it can be manually worked around) is for me a very good indicator that more shenanigans will come along the line.
If you have no problems with what I mentioned then I don’t think we have much in common ground to argue on. You can enjoy PieFed and I will continue to enjoy Lemmy.
I just want people to be informed about these things that I find highly problematic before they decide to use or selfhost PieFed.
New users joining from Reddit aren’t dealing with self-hosting - they’re just using it. I will also add I have seen a lot of praise for how easy it is to host piefed from other instance owners.
Yes, and so I am concerned they might not know what “bad list” might be hardcoded into the software they’re using.
Yeah, I think Lemmy needs to be made easier to selfhost. From the choice of programming language, the Lemmy backend must be more efficient and secure, so it should be the better choice for most selfhosters (exceptions being the active ones who are interested in patching the stuff they host and want to do so in Python).
You have already completely misunderstood this “bad list” that you referred to here. It isn’t and even at its peak before 196 mods complained, a block on all communities with those keywords.
Can you explain what it does then? Below is my understanding. Correct me where I am wrong.
The “bad list” blocks any community with that name from being federated. So for example if I go to a random PieFed instance and search for the ‘piracy’ community, I get no results
https://piefed.co.za/communities?search=piracy&language_id=0
The admin can circumvent this by manually adding the community. Some big instances (including yours) have done that, but smaller ones (like the one I linked) haven’t.
Rimu built a tool for new instance owners to bulk federate external communities on their instance to populate it. Kind of like a piefed lemmy-federate. In it, he excluded federation from communities with certain keywords that you have already bought up. The keywords were taken from another function that piefed.social has to stop listing posts and comments after 6 months applied to specific communities.
This didn’t translate well, and he removed multiple keywords referenced here from the mass federation tool when 196 mod complained.
Piefed.co.za is less than a day old and likely has done no federation at all yet. The owner literally said it’s all set up now but he’s tired and doing other things now in the Zulip chat.
That cannot be true. I can see a bunch of communities federated on that website. For example, search for ‘news’: https://piefed.co.za/communities?search=news&language_id=0
Okay. I call that a hardcoded block (that can be manually worked around).
Does he have all minor communities on there too?
Yes, but again - it has been adjusted to pretty much just refer to slurs. I actually spoke to him about this weeks ago.