• some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world
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    8 hours ago

    And what is the issue there? Let’s prioritize our inhabitants then. It’s not like there’s not enough to go around.

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      There’s absolutely limited resources, specifically concernin what the government has the capability of handing out.

      Unfortunately we have to think about “what’s in it for us?” If the answer is another mouth to put on welfare and medicaid then… Why?..

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        7 hours ago

        The government has no problem handing out hundreds of billions to ICE and the Pentagon - there absolutely is enough.

        "what’s in it for us?

        Ah, ok, you’re one of those. Might want to change your username

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          We don’t live in a world of abundance, abundance is a goal of humanity, were not there yet; and we don’t get there by printing money out of thin air and handing it out.

          The government has no problem handing out hundreds of billions to ICE and the Pentagon - there absolutely is enough.

          Billions of dollars is pennies compares what would be required to put the world on welfare, and those billions remove criminals and those preying on.l the generosity of our country.

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              iterally all studies about this make you wrong

              You misunderstand, we live in a world that’s capable of abundance. Go tell people in Nigeria that they have a world of abundance and see how they react; because they do not have an abundance of anything.

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                that would be arguing that i am speaking as if everybody’s needs have been met NOW which I am not saying. Don’t deliberately misinterpret my comment. Don’t pretend that part of why Nigerians don’t have abundance is not imperialist colonialism 2.0 wrapped in the flag of freedom, democracy and development.

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                  that would be arguing that i am speaking as if everybody’s needs have been met NOW

                  But that’s exactly what a world of abundance means.

                  Having an over abundance in one part of the world and scarcity in another isn’t a world of abundance.

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                    Having an over abundance in one part pf the world and scarcity in another isn’t a world of abundance.

                    You’re so close to realizing wherever humans settled had enough to sustain civilization. It’s the plundering, wars, genocides, privatization of national respurces that cause the scarcity.

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            Who’s saying to “put the world on welfare”? This conversation isn’t about getting things for free from the government, it’s about who is able to enter the country. It is proven thus far that immigration into the US is a net benefit, they commit fewer crimes than citizens and earn their way.

            Edit: “preying on the generosity of our country” is hilarious

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              The initial premis of the argument that I replied to was questioning why people who were born in the U.S. are entitled to something that those who are not born in the U.S. are not.

              I’m all for net tax payers entering the U.S. through legal routes. Methods that protect the immigrant from exploitation from employers.

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                Thanks for clarifying.

                Immigrating to the US legally in 2026 is a slow, restrictive, and broken process. Opening it up wouldn’t be the end of the world.

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                  I would love reform. Any changes that get smart productive people into the U.S. would only help us.

                  At the same time dont you feel it harms foreign countries? We’re literally brain draining other countries keeping them in poverty or preventing them from developing.