Meh, AI in the way it’s most commonly presented is no more or less offensive than any other corposlop in the last decade tbqh. If anything at least it does something. The debate of whether it steals and reproduces or whether that’s studying and remixing is tired, I don’t think I’ve seen anyone make a single coherent argument that convinced me it was any different to a person studying, remembering and regurgitating a summary.
But this is ab irrelevant sectarian distraction created by the ultra rich to divide the poor and generate debate and gather attention and hype, attract media’s fearmongering and thus pump up the stocks.
However, the solution to the entire issue is very simple - if AI is so useful - it belongs in the public domain in the hands of the commons.
It’s development, support infrastructure and uses should be transparent and open to scrutiny with regards to usefulness and sustainability, and the end product should be open to use for free for anyone at the point of use and without the possibility of deriving any sort of copyright from it’s output with enforced copyleft licensing, to acknowledge that the training data which made it possible belongs to everyone.
The former is an opinion, the latter is absolutely true and you are utterly delusional if you think that gippity et al. literally do not do anything or even that they do not provide value. You are in a bubble, they can be (and are presently used in some cases) in a genuinely helpful way, even if they are misused by the vast majority and that many of the pitched use cases are complete nonsense used by corpos to inflate stock value.
No we can be against AI without it dividing the working class.
No you can’t, because pointing to AI as the problem instead of capitalism is undermining the discussions we should be having with pointless identity politics and culture wars over AI vs no-AI. It’s pointless fluff and detracts from the discussions we should be having about incentives and goals in and of society. And then we naturally wade in to the whole philosophical mess about the nature of art and discover that actually many people have entirely different conceptions of what art is, what isn’t art, what’s a craft and what isn’t and what it means to be an artist, and if there’s a difference between creativity and skill.
Thus, we stand divided, while they take more and more of everything.
This AI culture war, which exists only because the valuations of companies like OpenAI balloon every time it’s brought up as being the cause of all ills - this is because the cause of all ills is a powerful and valued thing and so the values go up, not to mention news about such things gets lots of clicks - and that’s why this dichotomy is being pushed on you, and that is why you think the things you do the way you do and why you use the words that you do.
This is the same process that ultimately dismantled left wing politics in the west after the fall of the soviet union - it worked by reframing the discussion around environmentalism and green politics, and now it’s the same - reframing the discussion to be about “technology” Vs. “no technology” when it’s obviously value neutral and only it’s uses and the policies that shape incentives that create those use cases that are the topic of discussion we should be having.
Barnsley for anyone wondering where so they can avoid like the plague
AI IS a plague - it’s infecting everything.
Meh, AI in the way it’s most commonly presented is no more or less offensive than any other corposlop in the last decade tbqh. If anything at least it does something. The debate of whether it steals and reproduces or whether that’s studying and remixing is tired, I don’t think I’ve seen anyone make a single coherent argument that convinced me it was any different to a person studying, remembering and regurgitating a summary.
But this is ab irrelevant sectarian distraction created by the ultra rich to divide the poor and generate debate and gather attention and hype, attract media’s fearmongering and thus pump up the stocks.
However, the solution to the entire issue is very simple - if AI is so useful - it belongs in the public domain in the hands of the commons.
It’s development, support infrastructure and uses should be transparent and open to scrutiny with regards to usefulness and sustainability, and the end product should be open to use for free for anyone at the point of use and without the possibility of deriving any sort of copyright from it’s output with enforced copyleft licensing, to acknowledge that the training data which made it possible belongs to everyone.
Uh… No we can be against AI without it dividing the working class.
I’m at a loss really with this comment, it’s no worse than any other corpo slop? At least it does something? Neither of these statements are true
The former is an opinion, the latter is absolutely true and you are utterly delusional if you think that gippity et al. literally do not do anything or even that they do not provide value. You are in a bubble, they can be (and are presently used in some cases) in a genuinely helpful way, even if they are misused by the vast majority and that many of the pitched use cases are complete nonsense used by corpos to inflate stock value.
No you can’t, because pointing to AI as the problem instead of capitalism is undermining the discussions we should be having with pointless identity politics and culture wars over AI vs no-AI. It’s pointless fluff and detracts from the discussions we should be having about incentives and goals in and of society. And then we naturally wade in to the whole philosophical mess about the nature of art and discover that actually many people have entirely different conceptions of what art is, what isn’t art, what’s a craft and what isn’t and what it means to be an artist, and if there’s a difference between creativity and skill.
Thus, we stand divided, while they take more and more of everything.
This AI culture war, which exists only because the valuations of companies like OpenAI balloon every time it’s brought up as being the cause of all ills - this is because the cause of all ills is a powerful and valued thing and so the values go up, not to mention news about such things gets lots of clicks - and that’s why this dichotomy is being pushed on you, and that is why you think the things you do the way you do and why you use the words that you do.
This is the same process that ultimately dismantled left wing politics in the west after the fall of the soviet union - it worked by reframing the discussion around environmentalism and green politics, and now it’s the same - reframing the discussion to be about “technology” Vs. “no technology” when it’s obviously value neutral and only it’s uses and the policies that shape incentives that create those use cases that are the topic of discussion we should be having.
Do you somehow think I’m not against capitalism? AI is part of that
People were avoiding Barnsley anyway.
Had to be somewhere like that. Somewhere that the political class is happy to throw under the AI bus.