The measures taken by the DNC have not meaningfully countered climate change, and the DNC funds ICE as well. It’s allowed to be easier because it won’t change anything materially, that’s what I mean by saying both are so bad that neither are acceptable.
If you need to change a lightbulb, and said lightbulb is 20 feet above you, neither a 9 foot nor 10 foot ladder will allow you to get there. The end result is the same, even if both ladders are different and one gets you closer. The hard but practical solution is to find a ladder that can actually reach the bulb!
If you need to change a lightbulb, and said lightbulb is 20 feet above you, neither a 9 foot nor 10 foot ladder will allow you to get there. The end result is the same, even if both ladders are different and one gets you closer. The hard but practical solution is to find a ladder that can actually reach the bulb!
Malcolm X said the same thing after his return from Mecca:
If you stick a knife in my back nine inches and pull it out six inches, there’s no progress. If you pull it all the way out that’s not progress. The progress is healing the wound that’s below, that the blow made. And they haven’t even begun to pull the knife out, much less pull, heal the wound…
They won’t even admit the knife is there.
And of course this fuck-fuck lib defending Hitler doesn’t know both MLK and Malcolm X were assassinated during Democrat administrations. Or how Fred Hampton, Huey Newton, and the Black Panthers were being undermined by the FBI during the same time period. Hampton was assassinated under a Republican, but only a year after LBJ left office. The plot to have him killed started long before his actual death.
“Easier to organize under liberals over conservatives” my ass.
100%, of course there’s a perfectly fitting Malcolm X quote. Fantastic addition, practical examples of the empire murdering organizers in democrat admins really drives the point home. When you stand to change the system, and play outside its rules, both ruling parties will kill you.
Even if the DNC haven’t meaningfully countered climate change, they haven’t done nothing either. They also likely wouldn’t have abolished USAID which, while it existed for propaganda purposes, did save lives.
USAID was used for the purposes of solidifying compradors, and was abolished because it was getting more expensive for reduced gains as imperialism decays. It’s extremely likely that the DNC would have reduced USAID, like the GOP has (and it isn’t abolished, just transformed).
Both the DNC and GOP are servants of capital. The DNC is not a group of “nicer” capitalists. Therefore, we need to overthrow the imperialist system and establish socialism.
Even if the Democrats would’ve cut it USAID, they would’ve been far less sudden about it. According to people who work in humanitarian aid, the suddenness of Trump’s cuts to USAID got a lot of people killed in the developing world.
And the system of sanctions, imperialism propped up by USAID, etc. kill half a million people per year. The DNC would’ve cut the “aid” in a harmful way anyways, meaning the lightbulb isn’t changing. The US Empire isn’t crumbling due to personal choices by the parties, but because imperialism itself is crumbling.
No? Both sides are propping up a system that kills 500,000 people per year. Both would cut USAID, because the reason it was cut was not moral but economic. You’re arguing to perpetuate the system of imperialism that kills 500,000 people annually because you think the 10 foot ladder can reach the 20 foot lightbulb.
The practical solution is socialism, which requires revolution and grassroots organizing. Not propping up imperialism.
Cutting USAID killed hundreds of thousands of people. How many the Democrats would’ve killed is almost definitely less, although how much less is up for debate. Maybe the wouldn’t have cut USAID, maybe they would’ve just reduced it, maybe they would’ve cut it completely but done so more gradually.
They certainly wouldn’t have left the WHO. Staying in the WHO is just good business sense, aside from for the private hospitals but the impacts of a highly lethal global pandemic on stability and on the safety of the rich isn’t worth it.
And people will have more space to organize when under a predictably evil government than a chaotic one. Unless you’re relying on the death and destruction for a recruitment drive.
How many the Democrats would’ve killed is almost definitely less
You don’t even know what you’re saying yourself you damned clown 🤡 This is the party who spent their last presidential term funding and arming a genocide btw, on what ground are you arguing that this very same party would have given a shit about killing less peoples this way?
They certainly wouldn’t have left the WHO. Staying in the WHO is just good business sense, aside from for the private hospitals but the impacts of a highly lethal global pandemic on stability and on the safety of the rich isn’t worth it.
Again, you are arguing for voting for a party that is guilty of funding and arming a genocide. And these are the argument you are bringing up to make your case. Is staying in the WHO worth supporting a genocide? Heck fucking no!! In the name what ridiculous alternate moral philosophy are you arguing that it remotely makes up for even a fraction of it?
I’d also like to point out that you being reduced to praising the Democrats for what they maybe wouldn’t have done in the hypothetical scenario where they would have won isn’t a very good look for your side of the argument, just saying.
And people will have more space to organize when under a predictably evil government than a chaotic one. Unless you’re relying on the death and destruction for a recruitment drive.
Again, genocide. Is potentially having a slightly easier time organizing worth supporting genocide? No, It’s not!
Also, the Democrats have increased the budget of the US’ militarized police forces as much, if not more, than the Republicans. Does a party that give as much or more money to a brutal force of repression who already have military grade weapons than the other sound easier to organize under to you? Have you peoples already forgotten Biden’s brutal crackdown on strikes and protests during his presidency?
Cutting USAID killed hundreds of thousands of people. How many the Democrats would’ve killed is almost definitely less
Why? Both would have cut USAID, both kill 500,000 per year via imperialism.
They certainly wouldn’t have left the WHO. Staying in the WHO is just good business sense, aside from for the private hospitals but the impacts of a highly lethal global pandemic on stability and on the safety of the rich isn’t worth it.
Again, why? The US Empire is quite clearly trying to leave international organizations and replace them with new orgs like the “Board of Peace” that are even more nakedly US-dominated. This isn’t simply random whim, but a response to the decay in capitalism.
And people will have more space to organize when under a predictably evil government than a chaotic one. Unless you’re relying on the death and destruction for a recruitment drive.
This part is pure bullshit. Both the DNC and GOP crush leftist organizing and fund the groups that do so, like the NSA, FBI, and CIA. Organization is not “easier” under the DNC, and you would know this if you actually did org work in real life as a leftist.
All in all, you’re justifying maintaining a brutal system that kills half a million per year. You also admitted to not reading my comments, so why do you expect people to take your arguments seriously in return?
The measures taken by the DNC have not meaningfully countered climate change, and the DNC funds ICE as well. It’s allowed to be easier because it won’t change anything materially, that’s what I mean by saying both are so bad that neither are acceptable.
If you need to change a lightbulb, and said lightbulb is 20 feet above you, neither a 9 foot nor 10 foot ladder will allow you to get there. The end result is the same, even if both ladders are different and one gets you closer. The hard but practical solution is to find a ladder that can actually reach the bulb!
Malcolm X said the same thing after his return from Mecca:
And of course this fuck-fuck lib defending Hitler doesn’t know both MLK and Malcolm X were assassinated during Democrat administrations. Or how Fred Hampton, Huey Newton, and the Black Panthers were being undermined by the FBI during the same time period. Hampton was assassinated under a Republican, but only a year after LBJ left office. The plot to have him killed started long before his actual death.
“Easier to organize under liberals over conservatives” my ass.
100%, of course there’s a perfectly fitting Malcolm X quote. Fantastic addition, practical examples of the empire murdering organizers in democrat admins really drives the point home. When you stand to change the system, and play outside its rules, both ruling parties will kill you.
Even if the DNC haven’t meaningfully countered climate change, they haven’t done nothing either. They also likely wouldn’t have abolished USAID which, while it existed for propaganda purposes, did save lives.
That’s true they haven’t done nothing, they’ve opened up a whole bunch of public land for oil drilling
USAID was used for the purposes of solidifying compradors, and was abolished because it was getting more expensive for reduced gains as imperialism decays. It’s extremely likely that the DNC would have reduced USAID, like the GOP has (and it isn’t abolished, just transformed).
Both the DNC and GOP are servants of capital. The DNC is not a group of “nicer” capitalists. Therefore, we need to overthrow the imperialist system and establish socialism.
Even if the Democrats would’ve cut it USAID, they would’ve been far less sudden about it. According to people who work in humanitarian aid, the suddenness of Trump’s cuts to USAID got a lot of people killed in the developing world.
“No but you see, they might have done it too, and in the same way, but at least they would have done it slower! That’s totally better right?”
Just take the L already. You can’t even argue your own point without making a total fool out of yourself.
And the system of sanctions, imperialism propped up by USAID, etc. kill half a million people per year. The DNC would’ve cut the “aid” in a harmful way anyways, meaning the lightbulb isn’t changing. The US Empire isn’t crumbling due to personal choices by the parties, but because imperialism itself is crumbling.
“Some of you may die, but it’s a price I am willing to pay for the collapse of the American empire” - Lord Farquaad (Shrek)
Says the acknowledged Hilterite
No? Both sides are propping up a system that kills 500,000 people per year. Both would cut USAID, because the reason it was cut was not moral but economic. You’re arguing to perpetuate the system of imperialism that kills 500,000 people annually because you think the 10 foot ladder can reach the 20 foot lightbulb.
The practical solution is socialism, which requires revolution and grassroots organizing. Not propping up imperialism.
Cutting USAID killed hundreds of thousands of people. How many the Democrats would’ve killed is almost definitely less, although how much less is up for debate. Maybe the wouldn’t have cut USAID, maybe they would’ve just reduced it, maybe they would’ve cut it completely but done so more gradually.
They certainly wouldn’t have left the WHO. Staying in the WHO is just good business sense, aside from for the private hospitals but the impacts of a highly lethal global pandemic on stability and on the safety of the rich isn’t worth it.
And people will have more space to organize when under a predictably evil government than a chaotic one. Unless you’re relying on the death and destruction for a recruitment drive.
You don’t even know what you’re saying yourself you damned clown 🤡 This is the party who spent their last presidential term funding and arming a genocide btw, on what ground are you arguing that this very same party would have given a shit about killing less peoples this way?
Again, you are arguing for voting for a party that is guilty of funding and arming a genocide. And these are the argument you are bringing up to make your case. Is staying in the WHO worth supporting a genocide? Heck fucking no!! In the name what ridiculous alternate moral philosophy are you arguing that it remotely makes up for even a fraction of it?
I’d also like to point out that you being reduced to praising the Democrats for what they maybe wouldn’t have done in the hypothetical scenario where they would have won isn’t a very good look for your side of the argument, just saying.
Again, genocide. Is potentially having a slightly easier time organizing worth supporting genocide? No, It’s not!
Also, the Democrats have increased the budget of the US’ militarized police forces as much, if not more, than the Republicans. Does a party that give as much or more money to a brutal force of repression who already have military grade weapons than the other sound easier to organize under to you? Have you peoples already forgotten Biden’s brutal crackdown on strikes and protests during his presidency?
Why? Both would have cut USAID, both kill 500,000 per year via imperialism.
Again, why? The US Empire is quite clearly trying to leave international organizations and replace them with new orgs like the “Board of Peace” that are even more nakedly US-dominated. This isn’t simply random whim, but a response to the decay in capitalism.
This part is pure bullshit. Both the DNC and GOP crush leftist organizing and fund the groups that do so, like the NSA, FBI, and CIA. Organization is not “easier” under the DNC, and you would know this if you actually did org work in real life as a leftist.
All in all, you’re justifying maintaining a brutal system that kills half a million per year. You also admitted to not reading my comments, so why do you expect people to take your arguments seriously in return?